The unofficial Hold Em(Venting, Discussion, Strategy) Thread

[Madison]

I don't think I've ever heard someone say they lost money playing online poker. There must be one really bad player out there who loses millions everyday so that everyone else can win.

You're on the wrong forums for that.

I am a member of 2 forums (don't ever use them anymore though) where people give actual numbers as to win/loss. Pretty amazing how many admit to losing at a particular site. They tend to blame the site rather than their play, but still, they at least admit they lost money.

Seriously and no joke, I turned profit at all 10 of the poker sites I had accounts with. My online profit margin dwarfs my real life profit margin. I make money either way, but if I had to choose back then, gimme the online due to all the fish. Much, much easier to turn large profit on little risk online (or at least it used to be quite easy - dunno now that so many fish are no longer playing due to the US laws). In live play you tend to at least have a few decent players at your table, or hit a table of rocks much more often.

i'd say that live play is considerably worse than online play but the computer dealer/ability to play multiple tables at once make online poker much much more profitable...you might get 20 hands/hr sitting at a live table but i play 6 tables at once online (some people play up to 16 and its ridiculous) and get about 500-600 hands/hr, so while i may win at a slower pace, the quantity of hands i'm playing allows me to win more overall

Where do you play live where there are that many fish? I've played in Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Vegas. Vegas was cake money, super easy. I really should move there. Both Louisiana and Oklahoma have regulars who know how to play. I've got no problems sitting at a table with all regulars who play solid poker, but sitting with the fish is quite a bit more quick and profitable of course.

Back in the day though, Party Poker was known as the "aquarium" due to the fish factor. Not even the tourists in Vegas were as loose as the Party Poker players were. And online players were significantly worse than the live players on the overall (don't misread that anyone, of course there were/are very, very good online players, but the majority had no business even downloading the software, much less putting real money out there). At least it was that way a few years ago. I haven't played a single hand online since Bush cracked down, so I'm not sure how big of a difference there is currently.

[GiantsFan14]

with the crack down the level of play has increased significantly, i've played in indian casinos in CA and in also in vegas and the level of play live just so incredibly bad its ridiculous

[Madison]

with the crack down the level of play has increased significantly, i've played in indian casinos in CA and in also in vegas and the level of play live just so incredibly bad its ridiculous

I figured as much as far as online play being much tighter now. Part of why I don't/won't jump through the hoops to play online. As convenient as it is to run a table or two while working, I can't see it being as profitable as it was in the past. At least not without me actually paying attention to it anyway. Didn't even have to pay attention back then and would still make money *talking cash tables - not tournaments or sit and gos, I paid attention when playing those*.

Gambling is still fairly new to CA, so I can see how the overall fishyness of the play would be high. Vegas will always be high due to the tourism. Didn't hurt that my last trip to Vegas was while the early events of the World Series of Poker were running.