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Postby wrveres » Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:15 am

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'Drafting Esteban Loiaza is bad' ....
'Drafting Esteban Loiaza is bad' ..
Now repeat after me ...
'Drafting Esteban Loaiza is bad' ...
'Drafting Adam errr ugghhh Esteban Loiza is dunn .... I mean dumb dammit ..



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Postby LBJackal » Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:19 am

Believe the propaganda or believe the truth. It's up to you. But so far I see a lot of sheep promoting the propaganda............
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Postby Guest » Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:20 am

LBJackal wrote:For the most part he'll be under-rated. You don't pitch an entire season that well by fluke. Call it what you like, but he was reported to have learned a new pitch last season, got out of 2 notorious hitting parks (Arlington and SkyDome), and no longer had to face AL East hitters on a consistent basis.

Here is what I see from him:

3.55 ERA, 1.25 WHIP, 16 W, 200 K. Wherever you rank a player who will get those numbers, that's where I'd rank Loaiza.


Looks about right ;-D
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Postby the_tenman » Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:07 am

Ok. I am going to do a favor for my fellow cafe`members:

Here is what I project for Loaiza and you would do well to do the same:

3.72 ERA 174 Ks 17-18 Ws 1.24 Whip or better

Thats a pretty solid #2 or #3 pitcher. Regardless, he will start the season out HOT and be a good player to trade off! Loaiza always has started out well and fallen off in the 2nd half. If my league allowed trades, then I would definitely be all over this guy in the 9th+ rounds. Push him if you have something else similar available, otherwise, there is no reason not to pull the trigger! :-B
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Postby EugeneStyles » Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:31 am

I dunno about 17 or 18 wins with a diminished Sox team, but 15 wins is not out of the question. He'll be a risk, but there's no way he'll be as bad as he once was. And there's a chance he'll be as good as last year. I'd say take him no earlier than say round 12 or so, although that depends on how big of a league you're in. In an 8 team league, I wouldn't take him until the 20th round, assuming he was still available, which he won't be.
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Postby Andy1234 » Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:02 pm

wrveres wrote:Image

Look into the spiral,
look deep into the spiral,
try and focus on the smiley face,
in the spiral ...
you are getting sleepy,
you are getting very sleepy ...
'Drafting Esteban Loiaza is bad' ....
'Drafting Esteban Loiaza is bad' ..
Now repeat after me ...
'Drafting Esteban Loaiza is bad' ...
'Drafting Adam errr ugghhh Esteban Loiza is dunn .... I mean dumb dammit ..



:-D
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Postby Madison » Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:04 pm

Andy1234 wrote:
DieHardCubbie wrote:It is not brainwashing....lol... :-b

but here is one thread... :-)
Thanks, that's what I was looking for.


Lol. Nope not brainwashing. Just showing the stats and what to expect. I even give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he will have the second best season of his career. The thing is that it's not good enough to be on your fantasy team. 4+ era and 12 wins is a great year for Loaiza. How much would it hurt your fantasy team though?
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Postby Madison » Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:07 pm

wrveres wrote:Image

Look into the spiral,
look deep into the spiral,
try and focus on the smiley face,
in the spiral ...
you are getting sleepy,
you are getting very sleepy ...
'Drafting Esteban Loiaza is bad' ....
'Drafting Esteban Loiaza is bad' ..
Now repeat after me ...
'Drafting Esteban Loaiza is bad' ...
'Drafting Adam errr ugghhh Esteban Loiza is dunn .... I mean dumb dammit ..



:-D


That's one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time! :-D

Fantastic find Wrveres and thanks for the great laugh! ;-D
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Postby Area51's » Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:08 pm

Somebody else in ALL my leagues will have to take the risk/reward on him. I won't do it!
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Postby Madison » Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:23 pm

LBJackal wrote:Believe the propaganda or believe the truth. It's up to you. But so far I see a lot of sheep promoting the propaganda............


I was hoping not to get into this discussion with you again, since we both are so stubborn. Lol. :-D

Anyway, what do you mean "Propaganda" or "the truth"? Definitely way off base on that one.

Definition of propaganda: A systematic effort to persuade a body of people to adopt a particular opinion, attitude, or course of action.

Seems that both arguments are "propaganda" and neither one of them are "the truth". ;-)

Like I said, neither one of us will change the other's opinion so we will just have to wait and see. :-)
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