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Is Jeter a good fielding SS?

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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby Mugrila » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:21 pm

Statistically speaking, no. His 7 year averages in FPCT, RF, and ZR are at the bottom of qualified SS's (qualified meaning playing 2/3 of the team's games.) Fielding percent likes him the most and even then he was middle of the pack (12 of 23.) Range factor had him 18 of 23 and his average zone rating was 20 of 23. 2004 was a good year for him, and he's actually improved since 2001-2003 when he was nearly dead last of the qualified SS in RF and ZR. These don't always tell the whole story though. He does have a good arm, and as previously stated, does well on pop-ups in short LF. I certainly don't think he's the worst defensive SS in the league, but I haven't found any evidence of him being a good one.
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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby KCollins1304 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:38 pm

I don't know if you were fishing for Yankee homers or what cordcords, but I think most of the Yankee fans that are interested in fantasy baseball and statistics can acknowledge that he is definitely below average. He isn't bad enough to move off of SS yet mainly because there isn't a better player to put there as far as overall value. Alberto Gonzalez is the AAA SS and he has a really good glove, but his bat probably makes him no better than a utility fielder. Sometime in the next couple years, the Yankees are going to have to move him to 1B or OF.
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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby Pokeyouindaeye » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:47 pm

KCollins1304 wrote:I don't know if you were fishing for Yankee homers or what cordcords, but I think most of the Yankee fans that are interested in fantasy baseball and statistics can acknowledge that he is definitely below average. He isn't bad enough to move off of SS yet mainly because there isn't a better player to put there as far as overall value. Alberto Gonzalez is the AAA SS and he has a really good glove, but his bat probably makes him no better than a utility fielder. Sometime in the next couple years, the Yankees are going to have to move him to 1B or OF.



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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby cordscords » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:48 pm

KCollins1304 wrote:I don't know if you were fishing for Yankee homers or what cordcords, but I think most of the Yankee fans that are interested in fantasy baseball and statistics can acknowledge that he is definitely below average. He isn't bad enough to move off of SS yet mainly because there isn't a better player to put there as far as overall value. Alberto Gonzalez is the AAA SS and he has a really good glove, but his bat probably makes him no better than a utility fielder. Sometime in the next couple years, the Yankees are going to have to move him to 1B or OF.


Just trying to settle a discussion between myself and somebody else. Wanted to see what the majority of people around here thought.
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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby KCollins1304 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:54 pm

Pokeyouindaeye wrote:
KCollins1304 wrote:I don't know if you were fishing for Yankee homers or what cordcords, but I think most of the Yankee fans that are interested in fantasy baseball and statistics can acknowledge that he is definitely below average. He isn't bad enough to move off of SS yet mainly because there isn't a better player to put there as far as overall value. Alberto Gonzalez is the AAA SS and he has a really good glove, but his bat probably makes him no better than a utility fielder. Sometime in the next couple years, the Yankees are going to have to move him to 1B or OF.



What about that guy at third base?


Yea eventually A-Rod is going to have to move too. I don't think he is a bad defender now though, most of his trouble was mental I think. He has pretty bad is 2006 but had a good/decent year last year. If I were manager, I think A-Rod would be better suited for 1B, and Jeter for whatever OF position is not filled by Jackson and Tabata if they make it, in the future. Perhaps after Damon's contract runs out, Jeter could move to LF. It's hard to tell what will happen at 1b, the Yankees could go after Teixeira in FA.
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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby Field » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:38 pm

KCollins1304 wrote:
Pokeyouindaeye wrote:
KCollins1304 wrote:I don't know if you were fishing for Yankee homers or what cordcords, but I think most of the Yankee fans that are interested in fantasy baseball and statistics can acknowledge that he is definitely below average. He isn't bad enough to move off of SS yet mainly because there isn't a better player to put there as far as overall value. Alberto Gonzalez is the AAA SS and he has a really good glove, but his bat probably makes him no better than a utility fielder. Sometime in the next couple years, the Yankees are going to have to move him to 1B or OF.



What about that guy at third base?


Yea eventually A-Rod is going to have to move too. I don't think he is a bad defender now though, most of his trouble was mental I think. He has pretty bad is 2006 but had a good/decent year last year. If I were manager, I think A-Rod would be better suited for 1B, and Jeter for whatever OF position is not filled by Jackson and Tabata if they make it, in the future. Perhaps after Damon's contract runs out, Jeter could move to LF. It's hard to tell what will happen at 1b, the Yankees could go after Teixeira in FA.


You really think Arod is better suited to play 1B? I think that is highly unlikely in the next 5+ years. Not only would it be a waste to move him to 1B, but I doubt he would want to take that short of hit to his pride. A move from SS to 3B is one thing, but 3B to 1B is an entirely different. He's far too talented in the field to even consider such a move at this point.
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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby AcidRock23 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:01 pm

Field wrote:You really think Arod is better suited to play 1B? I think that is highly unlikely in the next 5+ years. Not only would it be a waste to move him to 1B, but I doubt he would want to take that short of hit to his pride. A move from SS to 3B is one thing, but 3B to 1B is an entirely different. He's far too talented in the field to even consider such a move at this point.


I dunno, going from being an OK 3B to being a plus 1B might help the team and then the Yanks could track down a purchasable defensively-minded 3B and solidify the whole infield more. Prospectus had a blurb that '1B is as wide open as it was May 2, 1939, the day Lou Gehrig asked out of the lineup' (Baseball Prospectus 2008, p. 342)
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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby stevethumb » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:09 pm

jeter makes "great" plays on routine ground balls and he can't get to the balls that good shortstops turn into great plays..he is below average in most fielding metrics
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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby Strasil42 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:13 pm

KCollins1304 wrote:I don't know if you were fishing for Yankee homers or what cordcords, but I think most of the Yankee fans that are interested in fantasy baseball and statistics can acknowledge that he is definitely below average. .


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Re: Do you think Jeter is a good fielding SS?

Postby sblinyy » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:51 pm

It seems most of you are talking about just his fielding. I agree that his fielding is average at best, but it is his hitting, and leadership that make him a good shortstop to me. I mean the guy has gotten 200 hits in the last 3 seasons. That's not something to slouch on. I mean the only shortstops that got more hits than him last year were Jimmy Rollins, and Hanley Ramirez.
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