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How to exploit Yahoo default rankings

Postby ramble2 » Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:56 pm

Mods, any chance we could start a sticky on this subject? Or maybe we don't want to ...

It'd be nice to have a one-stop place to go to get a look at which players Cafe members think have been grossly under or over rated in the Yahoo default rankings. We can accompany this with advice on how to exploit these rankings.

(To be fair to Yahoo, these are pretty clearly NOT meant to be expert rankings, but instead are based on how players ranked at the end of last season.)

Examples to get things started (rounds based on 12 team league):

If you are drafting with folks who all are using default rankings, you may be able to get these two with your first two picks:
Guerrero ranked 40th (3rd rounder)
Prior ranked 17th (2nd rounder)

Players rated way too high - best to exclude them from your rankings and let someone else take them too high:
Gagne ranked 3rd overall (!)
Loaiza ranked 33rd (8th SP overall; let someone else take him in the 3rd round)

Underrated player to target:
Beckett ranked 137th (11th round?!)
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Re: How to exploit Yahoo default rankings

Postby Guest » Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:30 pm

ramble2 wrote:Players rated way too high - best to exclude them from your rankings and let someone else take them too high:
Gagne ranked 3rd overall (!)
Loaiza ranked 33rd (8th SP overall; let someone else take him in the 3rd round)


No! Don't "exclude" them ... just lower them down to the spot you feel is appropriate. Only "exclude" the players who you wouldn't even want in the final round no matter what. What if everyone followed your advice and excluded Gagne ... then he'd be on waivers!
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:35 pm

Yeah I can't wait for my draft. With the exception of a few of us, nobody does their homework before the draft...they just wing it without making rankings. They'll just be following Yahoo...

Can you say Oswalt like 11th round and Morris like 15th? Haha not to mention Miguel Cabrera might not be remembered until the 25th. ;-D I can't wait.
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Postby Fumbler » Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:43 pm

They'll just be following Yahoo...


Yeah, but what fun is that?

It's nice to win, but if i get a team that is so loaded because the other owners were using Yahoo's default rankings then i don't think i'd have much fun.

I'd much rather have a challenge with a chance of losing than have a stacked team where i know i'm going to win.
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Postby ajgnydc722 » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:18 pm

its a league with my friends with money on it and we do it every year....its not my fault they dont get ready they just dont and if they follow these im excited to be able to get alot of players that will be good late..

i also do alot of challenging leagues this is just my main one with all my friends which is why i want to win.
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Postby ironman » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:20 pm

ajgdrummer7 wrote:its a league with my friends with money on it and we do it every year....its not my fault they dont get ready they just dont and if they follow these im excited to be able to get alot of players that will be good late..

i also do alot of challenging leagues this is just my main one with all my friends which is why i want to win.


Wow, and its a money league? You got any openings? ;-)
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:29 pm

I made a list here:
http://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/foru ... hp?t=32443

but they have changed the rankings since then.
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Postby Guest » Thu Feb 19, 2004 4:43 pm

don't forget piazza, he was ranked like 300th or something, get him if you can late.
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Re: How to exploit Yahoo default rankings

Postby ramble2 » Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:26 pm

Anonymous wrote:
ramble2 wrote:Players rated way too high - best to exclude them from your rankings and let someone else take them too high:
Gagne ranked 3rd overall (!)
Loaiza ranked 33rd (8th SP overall; let someone else take him in the 3rd round)


No! Don't "exclude" them ... just lower them down to the spot you feel is appropriate. Only "exclude" the players who you wouldn't even want in the final round no matter what. What if everyone followed your advice and excluded Gagne ... then he'd be on waivers!


Good point. Don't exclude Gagne.

Just exclude Loaiza :-D
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Postby Subversive » Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:46 pm

Here are some of the ones I found that seem out of place. Keep in mind I find it easier to find undervalued players than overvalued ones, so there are a lot more of those. Of course, these are just my own opinions:

Too High (push them down):
Gagne at 3.
Loaiza at 33. If he repeats, I'll eat my hat.
Hoffman at 56 is too high. Very risky to take him that soon.
Griffey at 100 is too high, in a 12 team league, this is the 7th round. Way too early with his recent history.
Batista at 150 is ranked ahead of Vidro, Isringhausen, JuanGon, and others. Unless the league ignores strikeouts and batting avg, he's too high here.
Posednik at 110. I would never take him this high until he proves he can do it more than once.



Too Low (move them up):
Vlad at 40 (obviously)
Rivera at 44
Prior at 17
Becket at 137 is too low, worth a top 100 pick, IMO.
Matt Morris at 114 seems pretty low.
Jeter at 115.
Mike Sweeney at 164 is pretty low, I think.
Blalock at 173 seems low.
Cliff Floyd at 200.
H Matsui at 202.
Hampton at 209
Hinkse at 233.
Teixeira at 258 (especially in a keeper league, this is low)
Rhodes at 280 is low, assuming he keeps the closer job.
Phelps at 283 is low. When Delgado gets traded, he will be the starting 1B in Toronto.
Aurilia at 313
Konerko at 317
Drew at 325
Nick Johnson at 337
Robbie Alomar at 347. I don't think he's completely done yet.
Kearns at 349.
Reyes at 429 (especially in a keeper)
Burnett at 476.


There's probably more, but these are ones I saw with a quick look through.
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