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Postby perch44 » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:15 am

Mar 12 LHP George Sherrill has won the heart of manager Dave Trembley and probably won the job of closer, too, after pitching two scoreless innings Monday. "I would say he's leading the pack right now," Trembley said. The Orioles, who lost would-be closer Chris Ray to Tommy John surgery in August 2007, got Sherrill, who has a 1.80 ERA in five innings this spring, from the Mariners in the trade for Erik Bedard.



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Re: George Sherrill

Postby The Cow » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:20 am

Sherrill's number say breakout! k/9 of 11.04 people with a nice ERA and WHIP. BJ Ryanesque. Can he close? We will see. But I got him real late in my 4 keep league about round 17, pick 170. This guy could really be a steal. Grab him.

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Re: George Sherrill

Postby stumpak » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:46 am

One thing I like about Sherrill and makes me think he has a good chance of sticking is that he made a strong improvement against RHs last year. His improvement against RHs is similar to Ryan's as he made the transition to closer 3 years ago. LH pitchers that convert to closer from a LH specialist role without a history of effectiveness against RHs always concern me (see CJ WIlson) but this is not really the trend with Sherrill.
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Re: George Sherrill

Postby MashinSpuds » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:06 pm

While he pitched very well in Seattle last year and is proving to be a solid arm, saves are still going to be tough to come by for this guy. I'm thinking around 20 or so, and with the no pressure atmosphere of a rebuilding O's team, they'll be 20 or so good saves.
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Re: George Sherrill

Postby BronXBombers51 » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:25 pm

MashinSpuds wrote:While he pitched very well in Seattle last year and is proving to be a solid arm, saves are still going to be tough to come by for this guy. I'm thinking around 20 or so, and with the no pressure atmosphere of a rebuilding O's team, they'll be 20 or so good saves.


If he doesn't get hurt or lose his job, I don't see how he won't easily get over 20 saves. If he's their closer all year, I don't see how he doesn't get at least 30.

Quality of team means very little in determining save opps.
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Re: George Sherrill

Postby stevethumb » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:32 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
MashinSpuds wrote:While he pitched very well in Seattle last year and is proving to be a solid arm, saves are still going to be tough to come by for this guy. I'm thinking around 20 or so, and with the no pressure atmosphere of a rebuilding O's team, they'll be 20 or so good saves.


If he doesn't get hurt or lose his job, I don't see how he won't easily get over 20 saves. If he's their closer all year, I don't see how he doesn't get at least 30.

Quality of team means very little in determining save opps.


i agree that the quality of a team has little correlation to the # of saves that a closer gets, BUT in sherrill's case i think there is another factor...and the key phrase in your assessment is IF HE'S THEIR CLOSER ALL YEAR ..IMO there is a very good chance that sherrill gets traded for prospects to a contender to be a setup man in july..that coupled w/his lack of closer experience, makes him a shaky choice to get over 20 saves
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Re: George Sherrill

Postby The Cow » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:34 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
MashinSpuds wrote:While he pitched very well in Seattle last year and is proving to be a solid arm, saves are still going to be tough to come by for this guy. I'm thinking around 20 or so, and with the no pressure atmosphere of a rebuilding O's team, they'll be 20 or so good saves.


If he doesn't get hurt or lose his job, I don't see how he won't easily get over 20 saves. If he's their closer all year, I don't see how he doesn't get at least 30.

Quality of team means very little in determining save opps.


Saves are very hard to predict. Sometimes closers from bad teams get a lot of saves, sometimes they don't. Closers from good teams don't always get a ton of saves either Rivera had only 30 last year for example. I would say if Sherrill closes all year 30 is very reasonable.

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Re: George Sherrill

Postby Ender » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:36 pm

I'm fine with drafting Sherrill but don't expect a repeat of last year. He is not going to be used like a LOOGY this year and that means his ERA/WHIP are going to go up. Sure he improved some last year but one year is not a trend and the sample is not nearly enough to show it wasn't just a fluke.

Right Handers - .736 OPS against for his career in 248 PA.
Left Handers - .518 OPS against for his career in 289 PA.

Except a lot more PA against RH and less against LH as the closer.
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Re: George Sherrill

Postby The Cow » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:37 pm

stevethumb wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:
MashinSpuds wrote:While he pitched very well in Seattle last year and is proving to be a solid arm, saves are still going to be tough to come by for this guy. I'm thinking around 20 or so, and with the no pressure atmosphere of a rebuilding O's team, they'll be 20 or so good saves.


If he doesn't get hurt or lose his job, I don't see how he won't easily get over 20 saves. If he's their closer all year, I don't see how he doesn't get at least 30.

Quality of team means very little in determining save opps.


i agree that the quality of a team has little correlation to the # of saves that a closer gets, BUT in sherrill's case i think there is another factor...and the key phrase in your assessment is IF HE'S THEIR CLOSER ALL YEAR ..IMO there is a very good chance that sherrill gets traded for prospects to a contender to be a setup man in july..that coupled w/his lack of closer experience, makes him a shaky choice to get over 20 saves


Sure Sherrill could get traded or lose the job, but for as cheap as Sherrill is going its worth it for even a half season of him. He is my 4th closer, so he is a bonus. Sherrill is being drafted about where top set up men are being drafted, so even if Sherrill gets traded and he pitches well, you still have a top set up man. Assuming he pitches as he did last year. Sherrill is dirt cheap, get him.

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Re: George Sherrill

Postby High Heater » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:48 pm

stumpak wrote:One thing I like about Sherrill and makes me think he has a good chance of sticking is that he made a strong improvement against RHs last year. His improvement against RHs is similar to Ryan's as he made the transition to closer 3 years ago. LH pitchers that convert to closer from a LH specialist role without a history of effectiveness against RHs always concern me (see CJ WIlson) but this is not really the trend with Sherrill.


BINGO!!!!!

i whole heartedly agree... he really improved there and figured something out and can now have consistent production against both handed batters. he has a fabulous out pitch and induces more GB's
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