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by **Millhouse** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:09 am

Well done, SI! ;-D

It's one thing to try to be contrarian and take an opposing view just for publicity's sake or to be "different" from all the other, cough, experts, but this is just insane....Utley #19, Rollins #2, Phillips #5, Cabrera #13, Ortiz #7....all over the map.

http://fannation.com/fantasy/column/6941

1. Alex Rodriguez, 3B, Yankees
2. Jimmy Rollins, SS, Phillies
3. Hanley Ramirez, SS, Marlins
4. Johan Santana, SP, Mets
5. Brandon Phillips, 2B, Reds
6. David Wright, 3B, Mets
7. David Ortiz, 1B/DH, Red Sox
8. Albert Pujols, 1B, Cardinals
9. Jose Reyes, SS, Mets
10. Prince Fielder, 1B, Brewers
11. Matt Holliday, OF, Rockies
12. Alfonso Soriano, OF, Cubs
13. Miguel Cabrera, 3B, Tigers
14. Ryan Howard, 1B, Phillies
15. Jake Peavy, SP, Padres
16. Carlos Beltran, OF, Mets
17. Manny Ramirez, OF, Red Sox
18. Maglio Ordonez, OF, Tigers
19. Chase Utley, 2B, Phillies
20. Curtis Granderson, OF, Tigers

by **BronXBombers51** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:10 am

That's pretty awful.

by **bigh0rt** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:15 am

A few notes...

If they're projecting Jimmy Rollins for another .295/30/90/130/40 type season, then #2 isn't a stretch. Ditto on Phillips repeating his year, or even surpassing that, which some people (not me) are projecting.

Cabrera very well could end up below every player listed above him. I think too often we get zoned in on our own projections, or the projections we have grown accustomed to, and are too quick to dismiss the contrary as nonsensical. I personally love M-Cab this season, but a case can be made for every player above him.

Papi at 7, the #1 1B is a bold call, but to be honest, I could see him being not much lower than that, maybe the #2 1B after Ryan Howard, and ahead of Prince Fielder and Albert Pujols.

It's not like a lot of the sheets I've made and seen, but I don't think it's all that bad, either. Utley at 19 is the most glaring issue I have with it. Cases can be made for the rest.

by **Mugrila** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:48 am

Mediocre list at best, but rankings are all subjective. I'm not really a fan of rankings just like this with no reasoning or projections next to the players, which is why I pretty much go off my own rankings/dollar values. Like Hort said, they must be projecting Rollins and Phillips to equal last years production, which I see as a bit of a stretch. As much crap as Funston takes for his big board, I think more publishers could take a note from the format he uses; the players in one column with some notes on the reasons behind the rankings.

by **Millhouse** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:53 am

bigh0rt wrote:A few notes...

If they're projecting Jimmy Rollins for another .295/30/90/130/40 type season, then #2 isn't a stretch. Ditto on Phillips repeating his year, or even surpassing that, which some people (not me) are projecting.

Cabrera very well could end up below every player listed above him. I think too often we get zoned in on our own projections, or the projections we have grown accustomed to, and are too quick to dismiss the contrary as nonsensical. I personally love M-Cab this season, but a case can be made for every player above him.

Papi at 7, the #1 1B is a bold call, but to be honest, I could see him being not much lower than that, maybe the #2 1B after Ryan Howard, and ahead of Prince Fielder and Albert Pujols.

It's not like a lot of the sheets I've made and seen, but I don't think it's all that bad, either. Utley at 19 is the most glaring issue I have with it. Cases can be made for the rest.

true. to your point...last year Cabrera and Ortiz had similar numbers with Ortiz being slightly better on the averages and OPS. Just don't draft 'em for speed!

HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
MIGGY 34 119 2 1 79 127 .320 .401 .565 150
PAPI 35 117 3 1 111 103 .332 .445 .621 171

by **Rhydderch** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:39 pm

This list is worse the further you go down. Corey Hart at 218 is probably the craziest thing. BJ Upton at 64? Salty at 113? Linceum at 217?

SI always has weird lists.

by **Russell James** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:00 pm

I don't think the rankings are horrible. I think Utley is a bit overrated, but that is only because I see people spending top 5 picks on him. I would put him more towards the back end of the 1st round. I think Phillips found himself in Cincy so he will put up similar numbers.

by **Grounded Polo** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:12 pm

Russell James wrote:I don't think the rankings are horrible. I think Utley is a bit overrated, but that is only because I see people spending top 5 picks on him. I would put him more towards the back end of the 1st round. I think Phillips found himself in Cincy so he will put up similar numbers.

Phillips doesn't have the potential to bat .320-.330 like Utley always does though.

by **bobbing_headz** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:17 pm

These rankings probably aren't great but they're still at least somewhat decent. If you're looking for downright awful check out the FoxSports top 50 ;-)