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Re: Can Pedro Martinez still be an Ace?

Postby Russell James » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:56 pm

Can Pedro Martinez Still Be An Ace?

No.
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Re: Can Pedro Martinez still be an Ace?

Postby tgalv » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:15 pm

i predict a return to 2000 pedro :-B

.74 whip :-L :-L }:-)
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Re: Can Pedro Martinez still be an Ace?

Postby kemper5 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:29 pm

165 IP, 12 W, 150 K's, 3.50 ERA, 1.25 Whip ....ish
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Re: Can Pedro Martinez still be an Ace?

Postby bigh0rt » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:58 pm

tgalv wrote:i predict a return to 2000 pedro :-B

.74 whip :-L :-L }:-)

.737 ;-)

I'll gladly have Pedro match any single season he's had (healthy) since 1993. If he's healthy, his ratios are going to be very good, bottom line. He should win a nice share of games, and despite a drop in velocity, at the end of last season he was still striking guys out. He's a stud.
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Re: Can Pedro Martinez still be an Ace?

Postby kemper5 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:33 pm

It's absolutely amazing what he did in a Red Sox Uniform for 7 seasons.. I think that span of his career will be talked about for a very long time as it's a Kofax-ish run he went on like Kofax did from 61' to 66' and nobody touched him, he was so far above most any hitter he faced.. Did not mean to get off track, but look at those #'s from 98' to 04', It's absurd...
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Re: Can Pedro Martinez still be an Ace?

Postby BronXBombers51 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:35 pm

bigh0rt wrote:
tgalv wrote:i predict a return to 2000 pedro :-B

.74 whip :-L :-L }:-)

.737 ;-)

I'll gladly have Pedro match any single season he's had (healthy) since 1993. If he's healthy, his ratios are going to be very good, bottom line. He should win a nice share of games, and despite a drop in velocity, at the end of last season he was still striking guys out. He's a stud.


Curious hort, how many innings do you see him throwing this year?
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Re: Can Pedro Martinez still be an Ace?

Postby bigh0rt » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:39 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:
tgalv wrote:i predict a return to 2000 pedro :-B

.74 whip :-L :-L }:-)

.737 ;-)

I'll gladly have Pedro match any single season he's had (healthy) since 1993. If he's healthy, his ratios are going to be very good, bottom line. He should win a nice share of games, and despite a drop in velocity, at the end of last season he was still striking guys out. He's a stud.


Curious hort, how many innings do you see him throwing this year?

130 - 150. Anything beyond that and I'll be doing the No Pants Dance of Joy.
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Re: Can Pedro Martinez still be an Ace?

Postby Grounded Polo » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:15 pm

They said on Around the Horn that Pedro was throwing at 87 MPH during a simulated game (can't remember if they said yesterday or today but obviously up to date). He was working in the 87-89 range once he returned from injury and you're not going to see Pedro can much higher than 90 because it's obvious that isn't his game anymore and he learned how to be an effective control pitcher a long time ago. Hopefully Pedro can give the Mets in the 160-175 innings range in '08, maybe less if we are in any position to limit his innings during September.
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Re: Can Pedro Martinez still be an Ace?

Postby glcmustliveon » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:34 pm

Imo, with his repertoire of pitches, he has just as good of a chance as any pitcher to become more finesse. That being said he will pitch well when he is healthy, but I am not sold on him being around for more than 20 starts.
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