I would bet my first born that Pedro does not reach 200 innings this season. I do think that Johan will alleviate some of the pressure, and I do think Pedro will have a very nice season, but I do not think he can be relied on as a real life or fantasy Ace.
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Pedro is at a point where his decline should be noticeable. He will still be better than most #2 pitchers but there should be some velocity drop and his breaking pitches probably won't be as sharp. Durability is also a concern and he probably won't log 200+ IPs. I'd probably be very comfortable with him as my #3 pitcher.
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"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
I agree with the others. Pedro wont hit 200 IP.... but i think he will be servicable. he'll make a good #3-#4 this yeaqr and should round out a stable fantasy rotation imo.
Yoda wrote:Pedro is at a point where his decline should be noticeable. He will still be better than most #2 pitchers but there should be some velocity drop and his breaking pitches probably won't be as sharp. Durability is also a concern and he probably won't log 200+ IPs. I'd probably be very comfortable with him as my #3 pitcher.
I disagree with you on the velocity drop. If anything, his velocity will most likely increase. He's been living in the high 80s for a couple of years because of the shoulder injury he had repaired. With a full winter of conditioning, and natural healing from the surgery, that shoulder should be better than it has been in a long time. I do agree with you on the durability concern, but mostly because of that highly ridiculous, completely unnecessary toe-tap he does after every pitch.
Yoda wrote:Pedro is at a point where his decline should be noticeable. He will still be better than most #2 pitchers but there should be some velocity drop and his breaking pitches probably won't be as sharp. Durability is also a concern and he probably won't log 200+ IPs. I'd probably be very comfortable with him as my #3 pitcher.
I disagree with you on the velocity drop. If anything, his velocity will most likely increase. He's been living in the high 80s for a couple of years because of the shoulder injury he had repaired. With a full winter of conditioning, and natural healing from the surgery, that shoulder should be better than it has been in a long time. I do agree with you on the durability concern, but mostly because of that highly ridiculous, completely unnecessary toe-tap he does after every pitch.
You think he will gain velocity after the shoulder surgery? That would be news to me.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
Yoda wrote: You think he will gain velocity after the shoulder surgery? That would be news to me.
I think the main problem has been that he's been pitching in a great deal of pain for a very long time. If you've ever thrown a baseball with pain in your shoulder, its very difficult (i have and it sucks). I can only imagine its just as difficult for a major league pitcher. If his shoulder is truly repaired, he should be throwing harder than the 85-86 he was throwing before the surgery.
Yoda wrote: You think he will gain velocity after the shoulder surgery? That would be news to me.
I think the main problem has been that he's been pitching in a great deal of pain for a very long time. If you've ever thrown a baseball with pain in your shoulder, its very difficult (i have and it sucks). I can only imagine its just as difficult for a major league pitcher. If his shoulder is truly repaired, he should be throwing harder than the 85-86 he was throwing before the surgery.
I doubt he was pitching through pain in his shoulder. That is just not something professional pitchers do. He did pitch with a frayed rotator cuff but I doubt he was throwing while he was in pain. I never heard of anyone doing that especially with someone like Pedro who seems to know when to shut it down.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
Yoda wrote:Pedro is at a point where his decline should be noticeable. He will still be better than most #2 pitchers but there should be some velocity drop and his breaking pitches probably won't be as sharp. Durability is also a concern and he probably won't log 200+ IPs. I'd probably be very comfortable with him as my #3 pitcher.
True. I think Pedro could take a step back, not work so many innings, and possibly do what Curt Schilling has done in transitioning into more of a finesse pitcher.
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by sjguzin » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:30 am 
