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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby ayebatter » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:40 am

abrage22 wrote:with this it would be a bit more tougher too improve a team :-o



I have $300 entry money league, no trades - its all about the draft & waiver wire - you better do your homework or you will suck. B-)
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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby Snakes Gould » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:37 am

ayebatter wrote:
abrage22 wrote:with this it would be a bit more tougher too improve a team :-o



I have $300 entry money league, no trades - its all about the draft & waiver wire - you better do your homework or you will suck. B-)


whats the reasoning behind it?
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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby ayebatter » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:45 am

Snakes Gould wrote:
ayebatter wrote:
abrage22 wrote:with this it would be a bit more tougher too improve a team :-o



I have $300 entry money league, no trades - its all about the draft & waiver wire - you better do your homework or you will suck. B-)


whats the reasoning behind it?



The higher the entry fee, the more every trade looks like collusion to half the league. This eliminates any questions, if you suck - you suck - but you don't make lousy trades that affect the other owners.
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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby abrage22 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:34 pm

I have $300 entry money league, no trades - its all about the draft & waiver wire - you better do your homework or you will suck. B-)


whats the reasoning behind it?



The higher the entry fee, the more every trade looks like collusion to half the league. This eliminates any questions, if you suck - you suck - but you don't make lousy trades that affect the other owners.[/quote]

well if someone agrees or does a lousy trade, thats there issue, and obviously they agreed to it... i'd look into the whole helping someone out thing if that team was really desperate, but otherwise in 300 dollar league no ones gonna give up there team till the end
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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:38 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:
ayebatter wrote:
abrage22 wrote:with this it would be a bit more tougher too improve a team :-o



I have $300 entry money league, no trades - its all about the draft & waiver wire - you better do your homework or you will suck. B-)


whats the reasoning behind it?

It's not that there's no reasoning for leagues of this nature -- that's easy to find. Placing more emphasis on the draft, on the ability to play the wire wisely, so on and so forth. As with most, though, it's not up my alley and I wouldn't participate in a league like this. I enjoy the trade aspect of the game too much for me to give it up. But, different strokes... ;-D
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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby Snakes Gould » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:41 pm

sure, but shouldnt you be doing all that anyway? i know i do and most competitive owners do in even public leagues or cafe leagues, but in my money leagues with trades, most of the teams act the same way. why does trading equal less skill or observation than using the free agent list?
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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:44 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:sure, but shouldnt you be doing all that anyway? i know i do and most competitive owners do in even public leagues or cafe leagues, but in my money leagues with trades, most of the teams act the same way. why does trading equal less skill or observation than using the free agent list?

To answer your question, yes, you should be doing all that, but removing trades from the equation places more emphasis on them, just like limiting the number of allowed Add/Drops does, etc. From my perspective, the biggest difference is the where and how much emphasis is placed on what. By removing trades, suddenly your draft becomes that much more important, as does your WW decision-making.
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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby Snakes Gould » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:46 pm

bigh0rt wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:sure, but shouldnt you be doing all that anyway? i know i do and most competitive owners do in even public leagues or cafe leagues, but in my money leagues with trades, most of the teams act the same way. why does trading equal less skill or observation than using the free agent list?

To answer your question, yes, you should be doing all that, but removing trades from the equation places more emphasis on them, just like limiting the number of allowed Add/Drops does, etc. From my perspective, the biggest difference is the where and how much emphasis is placed on what. By removing trades, suddenly your draft becomes that much more important, as does your WW decision-making.


i agree, but im just confused as to why exactly you would want to do that? its like eliminated saves as a category. sure it makes starters much more important etc... but closers are a part of baseball, as are trades, so why would you want that? it just seems to me that the league would be less fun and active, especially if there was a free agent limit in addition to the ban on trades.
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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:50 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:sure, but shouldnt you be doing all that anyway? i know i do and most competitive owners do in even public leagues or cafe leagues, but in my money leagues with trades, most of the teams act the same way. why does trading equal less skill or observation than using the free agent list?

To answer your question, yes, you should be doing all that, but removing trades from the equation places more emphasis on them, just like limiting the number of allowed Add/Drops does, etc. From my perspective, the biggest difference is the where and how much emphasis is placed on what. By removing trades, suddenly your draft becomes that much more important, as does your WW decision-making.


i agree, but im just confused as to why exactly you would want to do that? its like eliminated saves as a category. sure it makes starters much more important etc... but closers are a part of baseball, as are trades, so why would you want that? it just seems to me that the league would be less fun and active, especially if there was a free agent limit in addition to the ban on trades.

Oh, I agree. It's definitely not for me. I would not and could not enjoy a leage like that. But apparently some people can, the same way some can't imagine ever playing in a H2H league, or a points leaue, or a Roto league, or an NL-Only League (the AL is part of baseball)... In the end, if the players in the league enjoy it, I'm all for it, whatever it is.
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Re: Hmm... A league with no trades?

Postby Yoda » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:52 pm

I'm in a $ league that I didn't pull off a single trade in 07. It's frustrating. Everyone is seriously dumb in that league. The only reason why I am playing is because I won last year and I think I can win again this year.
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