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Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby eftda » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:56 pm

Why is Vlad being ranked so much higher than Lee? Vlad wins two of the 5 cats but not by much (RBI's and Avg). He's injury prone and is no longer a 5 tool player. Vlad for sure has a higher OPS but in a 5x5 league does that mean 3-5 draft slots higher?
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby Field » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:14 pm

Where have you seen Vlad being ranked much higher than Lee? Both usually go around the same time: mid-2nd to early 3rd round. Vlad may go a few picks earlier, but it's not by much. Vlad's slightly higher ranking is warranted since he should hit about 30 points higher than Carlos while only giving up about 5-7 steals. All of the other categories should be similar.
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby OneLoveBoomer » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:38 pm

I have Lee over Vlad in a redraft or a dynasty. By about a pick or two.

Even though I paid $32 for Lee and $33 for VG in an auction, but that's another story :-?
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby TheRock » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:13 am

I think they're being ranked pretty appropriately. I'd still take Vlad for the average and cooler name, but a case could be made for taking Lee over him. Astros got a nice looking lineup cooking.
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby Snakes Gould » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:51 am

people still take vlad assuming hes going to steal 20-25 bases. its not going to happen.
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:32 am

i'm actually very weary of vlad now. seems like he's on a decline and he seems to be aching quite a bit during the season. he's not stealing bases anymore, and his HRs seem to be going down, and i have a strong feeling after this season lee will be ahead of vlad in rankings.
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby Field » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:00 am

Snakes Gould wrote:people still take vlad assuming hes going to steal 20-25 bases. its not going to happen.


I don't think this is true. If that was the case, he would be picked late first/early second round. I'm somewhat concerned about his health, but his BA and overall ability make him a better pick than Lee.
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby KronJon » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:22 pm

Eh, I see them ranked about the same. Yahoo has Vlad at 20 and Lee at 24. That seems about right to me. Last year they were about equal in fantasy value (5th and 6th best OF), so Vlad gets the slight edge due to a better track record.
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby RedSoxNation04 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:09 pm

OneLoveBoomer wrote:I have Lee over Vlad in a redraft or a dynasty. By about a pick or two.

Even though I paid $32 for Lee and $33 for VG in an auction, but that's another story :-?

I like Lee over Vlad as well and think he will outperform him this year, though each of them should be 2nd round picks. I think Vlad offers a little more avg, but Lee should hit for more power and drive in more runs. The Sb's are a moot point, neither of them is really going to run at all. I
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Re: Vladimir Guerrero vs. Carlos Lee?

Postby The Artful Dodger » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:33 pm

I think Vlad is ranked a few spots higher than Lee mainly because there's a focus on the stats being quite good despite the lack of protection and for what it's worth, the Angels have bolstered him with Torii Hunter. Vlad had a rather unusual power drought in midseason that pulled down his HR total some, was sidelined because of the triceps problem, and of course, he wasn't getting the lineup support to knock him in consistently.

Vlad's no longer the 5-cat threat and that's a good thing. Not as much reckless baserunning from Vlad and a few DH days here and there could go some way in keeping him healthy and in good form. I don't see his .310, 30 HR, and 120 RBI days as quite over yet.
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