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Postby ferris182 » Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:07 pm

Erboes wrote:
sigtaulefty wrote:Shef, Manny, Mags, Sosa
This is a good list if Sheffield and Manny both get 550 AB's. The safer bet though is Ordonez. For reasons stated many times here at the Cafe, not only will Sosa not even be close to these other guys, he won't even be in the top 100 players in $ value at the end of the season. Bad pick, that Sosa. Bad.


Whats wrong with Sammy??
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Postby WhosBabeRuth » Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:17 pm

ferris182 wrote:
Erboes wrote:
sigtaulefty wrote:Shef, Manny, Mags, Sosa
This is a good list if Sheffield and Manny both get 550 AB's. The safer bet though is Ordonez. For reasons stated many times here at the Cafe, not only will Sosa not even be close to these other guys, he won't even be in the top 100 players in $ value at the end of the season. Bad pick, that Sosa. Bad.


Whats wrong with <b> Sammy</b>??



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Postby ferris182 » Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:22 pm

I still predict that Sosa will have a big year- but why is everyone down on him?
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Postby Erboes » Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:39 pm

I don't think anyone is as down on him as they should be. There are two problems I have with him. One, I think he's in serious decline. I think his bat has slowed to the point that he can no longer hit 40+ homers with a decent average.

The consensus seems to be that it really doesn't matter that much because he'll still hit .270-100-45-120-0, which I doubt, but even if true it leads to my second problem with him, he's consistently going in the second round and that is way too high for this type of production. For a second round pick in a mixed league you should need to get production at a clip of somewhere between $31-35. If Sosa achieves those numbers that people seem to think he will, it's still only worth $24. You are pretty much throwing away $7-11 in production.

A $24 player should go no earlier than the 6th round. If you include the risk that he's slipped beyond that he's worth even less, which is why he should be taken off of everyone's draft list because he'll be gone long before then.

It's the same old story, people over valuing the power stats. He's just not worth it anymore.
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Postby HOOTIE » Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:42 pm

sigtaulefty wrote:Shef, Manny, Mags, Sosa


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Postby HOOTIE » Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:45 pm

Erboes wrote:
sigtaulefty wrote:Shef, Manny, Mags, Sosa
This is a good list if Sheffield and Manny both get 550 AB's. The safer bet though is Ordonez. For reasons stated many times here at the Cafe, not only will Sosa not even be close to these other guys, he won't even be in the top 100 players in $ value at the end of the season. Bad pick, that Sosa. Bad.



That is a bit of a stretch. Sosa is declining, but he still will make top 100 in earnings.
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Postby Erboes » Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:52 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
Erboes wrote:
sigtaulefty wrote:Shef, Manny, Mags, Sosa
This is a good list if Sheffield and Manny both get 550 AB's. The safer bet though is Ordonez. For reasons stated many times here at the Cafe, not only will Sosa not even be close to these other guys, he won't even be in the top 100 players in $ value at the end of the season. Bad pick, that Sosa. Bad.



That is a bit of a stretch. Sosa is declining, but he still will make top 100 in earnings.


Wait until you see the Rotoguys rankings. Sosa is 50th out of all OF's, with him hitting .251 and 41 homers. You guys will freak.
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