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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby NZ Eff » Thu May 29, 2008 7:13 pm

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3 out of 3. You're on a roll.
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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby WyldStallyn » Thu May 29, 2008 8:04 pm

its always entertaining to revisit old predictions. i dont think ive ever seen any as bold as those 8-o

but on to 2b, my favorite 2b target, kelly johnson, is on pace for 90r, 84rbi, 20hr, 17sb, and a .294 avg. not bad for a guy whose avg draft pos was after the 15th round
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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby Yoda » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:13 pm

lol... Kent had a way better season. :-D
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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby NZ Eff » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:35 pm

Yoda wrote:lol... Kent had a way better season. :-D


Castillo has been just as valuable as Kent this season and he's had 140 less AB's.
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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby NZ Eff » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:37 pm

NZ Eff wrote:
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Kent in 100 games would still provide more production than Castillo in 140. I love how everyone keeps writing that guy off. I'm aiming for Weeks again this season, but I have no issue waiting on a Jeff Kent or Kelly Johnson to fall into my lap.


Not quite sure how you figure that. A 100 games of Jeff Kent (which incidentally is very likely) would not be worth a roster spot in a 16 teamer.


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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby Another Blown Save » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:57 pm

Seriously, you guys are pathetic
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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby Yoda » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:14 pm

Cold, hard, facts:
1. Yahoo has Kent ranked at 784 overall, Castillo at 880
2. ESPN has Kent ranked at 32 and Castillo at 37
3. Baseball Prospectus has Kent's VORP at 10.4, Castillo at 6.1

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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby NZ Eff » Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:03 pm

Yoda wrote:Cold, hard, facts:
1. Yahoo has Kent ranked at 784 overall, Castillo at 880
2. ESPN has Kent ranked at 32 and Castillo at 37
3. Baseball Prospectus has Kent's VORP at 10.4, Castillo at 6.1

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Nope, not even close. As usual you have no clue.

Kent has had 140 more AB's so naturally his production has been greater although only by a small amount. ESPN and Yahoo rankings are based solely on that. What they don't include and what you have to include for value purposes is that by having over a third more AB's, Kent has actually hurt a roster more than Castillo. Both have ordinary numbers but 432 AB's worth of ordinary numbers is far more damaging than 290 AB's worth of them.
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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby Snakes Gould » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:58 am

for starters, you were both wrong, so you're arguing about who was less wrong :-?

castillo's 46 runs .253 avg and 17 sb were probably not helpful to anyone this season.

nor was kent's .275 avg 11 hr or 57 rbi.

you both were wrong. now that that's that, applaud the problem who targeted kinsler, pedroia, derosa (yes mark derosa), and alexei ramirez.
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Re: when do you guys take 2b

Postby NZ Eff » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:06 am

Snakes Gould wrote:castillo's 46 runs .253 avg and 17 sb were probably not helpful to anyone this season.



I disagree. 46 runs and 17 SB's in 290 AB's would be a help to most rosters. The .253 BA not so much.

On my roster this season in a league where we use a MI, Castillo has given me 36 runs 3 HR's 23 RBI 13 SB's and a .265 BA. From just 196 AB's B-)
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