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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:35 am

mweir145 wrote:GTWMA, you really think Litsch has value as any kind of fantasy value this year? I really don't see much more than a 4.25 ERA with low K totals, and that's probably best case scenario. Janssen may be the one who pitches the most innings out of the Jays' #5 spot this season.

I do agree with Marcum, though, he could be a bit of a steal very late.


I'll take a look at my numbers tonight again. I think my projection was driven by a rebounding K rate (not great, but much closer to his minor league numbers), a lower ERA, and a higher win total.
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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby in10s » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:06 am

deerayfan072 wrote:
Yoda wrote:lots of good names already... I'll throw in a few more late rounders:

Shawn Hill
Hiroki Kuroda
Josh Johnson
Jason Hirsh
Chuck James
Mike Pelfrey
Jonathan Sanchez
Edinson Volquez


some nice names there Yoda. Man I forgot about Johnson....


Unless you are in a keeper league or can wait till late this year, you should go back to forgeting about Johnson. From cbssports.com:

Johnson had reconstructive elbow surgery in early August, a procedure that generally requires 12 months of rehab. The Marlins are not expected to be interested in rushing their young, talented right-hander back during the 2008 season, so ignore Johnson outside of keeper leagues. He will be nothing more than a DL stashee in those formats. (Updated 2/4/08)
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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby deerayfan072 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:16 am

in10s wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
Yoda wrote:lots of good names already... I'll throw in a few more late rounders:

Shawn Hill
Hiroki Kuroda
Josh Johnson
Jason Hirsh
Chuck James
Mike Pelfrey
Jonathan Sanchez
Edinson Volquez


some nice names there Yoda. Man I forgot about Johnson....


Unless you are in a keeper league or can wait till late this year, you should go back to forgeting about Johnson. From cbssports.com:

Johnson had reconstructive elbow surgery in early August, a procedure that generally requires 12 months of rehab. The Marlins are not expected to be interested in rushing their young, talented right-hander back during the 2008 season, so ignore Johnson outside of keeper leagues. He will be nothing more than a DL stashee in those formats. (Updated 2/4/08)


Thanks for the update on him
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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby Yoda » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:18 am

in10s wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
Yoda wrote:lots of good names already... I'll throw in a few more late rounders:

Shawn Hill
Hiroki Kuroda
Josh Johnson
Jason Hirsh
Chuck James
Mike Pelfrey
Jonathan Sanchez
Edinson Volquez


some nice names there Yoda. Man I forgot about Johnson....


Unless you are in a keeper league or can wait till late this year, you should go back to forgeting about Johnson. From cbssports.com:

Johnson had reconstructive elbow surgery in early August, a procedure that generally requires 12 months of rehab. The Marlins are not expected to be interested in rushing their young, talented right-hander back during the 2008 season, so ignore Johnson outside of keeper leagues. He will be nothing more than a DL stashee in those formats. (Updated 2/4/08)


Forgot about that... I thought he was coming back earlier.
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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby ukjohn » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:49 am

AussieDodger wrote:Some deep ones.

Dallas Braden is hugely under-rated, he has a 10.32 K/9 in the minors and a 1.17 WHIP. He might surprise everyone.


Dallas Braden under-rated?

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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby AussieDodger » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:58 am

ukjohn wrote:
AussieDodger wrote:Some deep ones.

Dallas Braden is hugely under-rated, he has a 10.32 K/9 in the minors and a 1.17 WHIP. He might surprise everyone.


Dallas Braden under-rated?

1-8 record, 72 Innings, 55 k's, 91 h's, 26 bb's, 6.74 era, 1.623 whip

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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby deerayfan072 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:19 pm

AussieDodger wrote:
ukjohn wrote:
AussieDodger wrote:Some deep ones.

Dallas Braden is hugely under-rated, he has a 10.32 K/9 in the minors and a 1.17 WHIP. He might surprise everyone.


Dallas Braden under-rated?

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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby DbacksRback » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:35 pm

some I like are:
Loewen- put together some good starts before getting hurt
shawn hill
anthony reyes
mcgowan
marcum
garza
bailey
kennedy?
owings
this is just off the top of my head but ill give them a chance mabey :-?
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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby MasterX1918 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:59 pm

what about John Patterson? I know he'll never be the pitcher that he was in 2005, but he could still post decent numbers and could be worth a look on the WW.
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Re: Top SP sleepers coming into 2008...

Postby moochman » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:48 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:what about John Patterson? I know he'll never be the pitcher that he was in 2005, but he could still post decent numbers and could be worth a look on the WW.


As I was reading this thread Patterson came to my mind too. Here is a story on his recovery from: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080209&content_id=2369449&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

What would a healthy John Patterson mean to the Nationals in 2008? Quite a lot. They would like the right-hander to repeat his 2005 performance, when he set career highs in strikeouts (185) and had a 3.13 ERA in 31 starts.
The past two years, however, Patterson hasn't been able to duplicate his '05 season because of nerve problems in his right forearm. He pitched in a combined 15 games during that span. Almost five months after having a second surgery to fix his nerve problems, Patterson, 30, said he is feeling great and ready to play a full season.

In fact, Patterson already is pitching on a mound. Last Monday, he threw 100 pitches without having any problems. During that session, he was able to throw breaking balls.

"I'm doing really well," Patterson said. "I'm throwing five to six days a week. I'm throwing bullpens [three days a week]. ... I've been really excited. It has continually gotten better. I've had some soreness in my body, but those were muscles that I haven't used in a while. My elbow and [forearm] have been really good."


He had great stuff and need only stay healthy to be a total steal late in the draft. Now if he can only stay healthy..
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