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Poll: 6th pitching category

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What category should be the 6th one for pitching (keep in mind churning)

QS
1
11%
L
8
89%
CG
0
No votes
Holds
0
No votes
Shutouts
0
No votes
Wild pitches (this is a joke, please dont vote for it)
0
No votes
Other
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 9

Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby RocketsDWM » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:22 pm

The categories of pitching will be:

ERA
WHIP (could split up but for now I think we should keep it as is)
K
W
SV

We need a sixth.

Please vote only once. Also, only league members vote. If there are more than 12 votes, the poll is voided and we will start again.

Any more options to add to the poll? Just post in this thread and hopefully I see it.

We will keep the poll open until every member votes. Obviously, majority rules.
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Re: Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby smoovethug » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:07 am

Losses was my choice, although wild pitches was a close second! ;-7
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Re: Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby AussieDodger » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:10 am

Yeah I agree with the argument people were making for Losses.
A cap on moves would be too restrictive.
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Re: Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby bobbing_headz » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:23 am

I'm voting QS. Still think that H2Hs are too RP slanted, even with churning. This still helps against switching in below average pitchers.
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Re: Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby Snakes Gould » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:53 am

why would you add QS in addition to W's? that would only entice the churners even more.
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Re: Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby bobbing_headz » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:37 am

Snakes Gould wrote:why would you add QS in addition to W's? that would only entice the churners even more.


I think Losses make SPs way too unattractive
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Re: Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby Grounded Polo » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:32 am

bobbing_headz wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:why would you add QS in addition to W's? that would only entice the churners even more.


I think Losses make SPs way too unattractive


Yeah, it would be tempting just to draft Papelbon, Putz, and another nice closer to secure a 4-2 advantage in pitching every week if done properly, unless there is a pretty high minimum innings amount to discourage it

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Re: Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby threelions » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:28 pm

I vote for Losses.
1, punish teams starting below average SPs, help preventing churnng.
2, offset the power of RPs. since we don't have Holds, RP usually means closer,
a bad outing for a closer usually results a Loss, meanwhile elite SPs don't lose often.
3, yes, higher minimum IPs is a must.
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Re: Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby fantasybeast27 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:41 pm

I voted for losses, but am an advocate of K/9
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Re: Poll: 6th pitching category

Postby bobbing_headz » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:51 pm

threelions wrote:I vote for Losses.
1, punish teams starting below average SPs, help preventing churnng.
2, offset the power of RPs. since we don't have Holds, RP usually means closer,
a bad outing for a closer usually results a Loss, meanwhile elite SPs don't lose often.

3, yes, higher minimum IPs is a must.


You have it all wrong. I'm not saying Losses are bad but they do exactly the opposite. Yes they do punish below average SPs but they make RPs more valuable because they have good ratios (2) possibly saves (1) and Losses rarely affect them (1). That's 4 categories to 2 (W/K) that a CL owns in over a SP and 3 to 2 that a good RP does. And yes higher min IP is definitely a must with losses because RPs become even better.
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