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Postby GSes » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:14 am

I wanted to make my 1000 post good so this is what I came up with. I hope it blows away the other 999. Should Miguel Tejada be taken before Nomar and now that ARod is at 3B does that make Tejada the best SS in the game?

As Hootie as stated before Nomar has been in a decline ever since his 2 huge years in 1999 and 2000.

I will start with comapring Tejada and Nomar the last 2 season's

2 year avg HR's

Tejada 30.5
Nomar 26

2 year avg RBI

Tejada 118.5
Nomar 112.5

2 year avg Runs

Tejada 103
Nomar 110.5

2 year avg hits

Tejada 190.5
Nomar 197.5

2 year avg SB

Tejada 8.5
Nomar 12

2 year avg BB

Tejada 45.5
Nomar 40

2 year avg batting avg

Tejada 293
Nomar 305.5

2 year avg OBP
Tejada 345
Nomar 348.5

Games played avg

Tejada 162
Nomar 156

So what does all that proove? It prooves that there isnt a very big gap between Nomar and Miggy, if a gap at all. The 2 have been very close in EVERY category over the last 2 year's.


In 2003 Tejada had a "bad" year. But really he simply had a VERY bad april here are his month by month averages. After april was over Miggy was very consistent.

April: 161
May: 295
June: 288
July: 288
Aug: 327
Sep: 319

Post All star Break

Tejada 326 avg
Nomar 274 avg

In 2003 Miggy also had a career high in a few categories. He struck out a career low 65 times and his MVP season he struck out 85 times. Miguel also had a career high 69 Extra Base hits and a career high 42 doubles.

Lastly Tejada is leaving Oakland which is a pitcher friendly park to go to the more friendly Camdien Yards. In Baltimore Tejada will also have a lot more protection then in Oakland.

In 2003 the home/away splits are amazing

Tejada
Home: 253 avg
Road: 303 avg

In 2003 this is how Tejada faired against AL East pitching

Yankees: 343 avg 8-o
Red Sox: 357 avg 8-o
Blue Jays: 433 avg 8-o 8-o 8-o
Devil Rays: 235 avg.....well you can't hit over 340 everywhere.

Tejada is a career 304 hitter at camden yards in Baltimore.

So could it be Tejada's average has always been lower because of the Net (career 253 at home) and a move to Camden Yards means his average will rise. Yes it does.

So in conclusion Miguel Tejada's average and overall numbers will for sure rise in Baltimore. By looking at last year's averages he feasted on AL East pitching. Nomar has been declining since his great 2000 and 1999 and Nomar's power numbers are not what they use to be. Tejada is also 3 years younger then Nomar.

With all this there is a very great chance that Tejada will be better then Nomar in 2004 like I know he will be. So why not let someone else take Nomar in the 2nd round (or #4 overall if you work for ESPN) and grab Tejada a little later.

Am I going to pick Tejada over Nomar, NO. I don't have too, someone else will then I will get Tejada in the third round.

Bottom Line

Tejada is going to have his best season yet as an Oriole and take his game to the next level.

Woo if you made it all the way through then I thank you. I can say my #1000 was by far my longest.
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Postby Rage » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:21 am

Yes, I totally agree...Miggy put those #'s up in a pitcher park and now goes to a hitter's park. Can you say "career year" still forthcoming?
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Postby Rage » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:22 am

Yes, I totally agree...Miggy put those #'s up in a pitcher park and now goes to a hitter's park. Can you say "career year" still forthcoming?
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Postby RynMan » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:26 am

depends what kind of production u want from your shortstop i think

HR - Tejada
R - Nomar or Renteria (now he is hitting in front of Pujols, edmonds, rolen)
RBI - Tejada or Nomar
SB - Renteria
AVG - Renteria

I personally like Renteria, he is coming into his prime, and from a shortstop, these are the numbers i am looking for. some speed, average, some runs. I will try and get my power from my outfield and 1st base.....both positions which have a lack of average and steals.
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Postby tool069c » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:45 am

Nomar is in a contract year, he is playing for the 0's now....
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Postby RynMan » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:49 am

btw congrats on the 1000 post!
i will get there one day! :-)
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Postby unclepaulie » Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:58 am

GOOD post bro and congrats on 1000!!!
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Postby zEli173 » Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:48 am

Contract year my friends, contract year.

I've got it:
1. A-Rod (if he's still SS eligible)
2. Nomar
3. Renteria
4. Tejada


(and if we're going to analyize the two by subtracting out tejada's april, then remove nomar's september and see where that gets you).
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Postby LBJackal » Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:20 am

Tejada is solid and reliable, while Renteria's ceiling is extremely high. For that reason, and the fact that SB's are more valuable than HR/RBI, I'll go with Renteria. I'm curious to see if he can improve on last season's numbers with a move in front of Pujols, Edmonds, and Rolen as opposed to behind them like last season.
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Postby astimeexpires.com » Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:45 am

i think for the value renteria is the best. how can you argue with a .330 avg and 30+ sb's. that's just beautiful. plus the fact that he hits in front of rolen and pujols makes it even that much better. nomar has some question marks with regards to how he's going to react to the sox trying to trade him and miggy is on a new team now. you can't really tell how he'll adapt either. renteria doesn't have those question marks.

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