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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby killa3312 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:21 pm

Maybin may have the higher "ceiling", but Longoria is a much safer bet and his upside is still very high itself. Longoria is going to be the AL version of David Wright.
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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby TurdFerguson » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:27 pm

killa3312 wrote:Maybin may have the higher "ceiling", but Longoria is a much safer bet and his upside is still very high itself. Longoria is going to be the AL version of David Wright.



He doesn't have the speed Wright has.
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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby TurdFerguson » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:35 pm

Curtis Pride wrote:me saying that is no more absurd than saying that Maybin has a higher ceiling than Longoria.

Maybin has done absolutely nothing in his 2+ years (that's a small sample?) in the minors for anyone to think he's close to Longoria.

And if the Marlins could have gotten Longoria, they would have done it in a second. I, along with every actual professional who ranks prospects, has Maybin rated lower than Longoria. I just have Maybin rated MUCH lower.

Maybin 2008 .260/.315/.410 12 home runs 25 steals
Longoria 2008 .280/.350/.480 22 home runs



Man just stop...Wow ! I still don't know how he has done nothing in the minors?? I guess .309 23HR 52SB and a OPS% well over .900 is nothing.The guy isn't even 21 yet
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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby Curtis Pride » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:12 am

you need to look at the peripherals, not just the plain stats.

The guy had 25 infield hits last year. He's had an over .400 BABIP in the minors. It's absolutely not sustainable. You normalize his BABIP, and instead of being a .300 hitter, he's a .250 hitter, and he has a sub .800 OPS (since his luck due to poor fielding in the low minors doubly inflates his OPS)

He does have good plate discipline and takes walks, yes. But he's got horrible plate coverage, and strikes out over 25% of the time. He strikes out more than Jay Bruce (who strikes out a lot - but has a ton of power). Maybin struck out more in the minors than Adam Dunn, Ritchie Sexson, BJ Upton, Grady Sizemore - pretty much anyone you can think of who strikes out a ton in the majors AND WAS AS YOUNG AS MAYBIN AT SIMILAR LEVELS. He also grounds out nearly 60% of the time. It's pretty impossible to have a ton of power when you have a 60% ground ball rate and a 10% line drive rate.

Maybin needs to dramatically change his entire approach at the plate. It's not merely becoming a better hitter, he needs to become a completely different hitter.

If you look at his slash stats alone, you are missing the (quite clear) story.
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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby Fluidoz » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:39 pm

I like Maybin. Longoria is a safe choice. And will probably be better this year. Probably. But Maybin is a year and a half younger. Next season, he'll steal more bases, have a better Avg.and be close in HR's. I don't think you will be disappointed either way. But go with Maybin long term.
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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby kretz330 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:42 pm

I think it depends on which categories you consider more important. If you want consistency and steals I would go with Maybin. If you are looking for some pop and RBIs I would go with Longoria.
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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby emancan924 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:59 pm

regarding consistency, all analysts will tell you that longoria is the safest bet to hit for higher average than maybin. maybin will help you out in a lot of different cats, but i don't see him hitting above .285 at any point in his career, and that's being generous.
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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby TurdFerguson » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:35 pm

2 HR and 4 RBI today for the ground ball hitter.. :-D
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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby killa3312 » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:32 am

Longoria's still had a better spring.
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Re: Maybin vs. Longoria in Keeper

Postby TurdFerguson » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:26 pm

Another HR!
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