Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas, Jack Baldschun, and Dick Simpson.
Pedro Martinez was actually part of two lopsided deals. He was also traded for Tony Armas and Carl Pavano.
Lou Collier for Jason Bay.
AJ Pierzynski for Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano, and Boof Bonser.
Victor Zambrano for Scott Kazmir.
The list goes on and on.
"I do not think baseball of today is any better than it was 30 years ago... I still think Radbourne is the greatest of the pitchers." John Sullivan 1914-Old athletes never change.
Randy Johnson, Gene Harris and Brian Holeman for Mark Langston and Mike Campbell Curt Schilling's been involved in many bad trades John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander was pretty bad too.
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thedude wrote:Pedro Martinez was actually part of two lopsided deals. He was also traded for Tony Armas and Carl Pavano.
The Expos were in a similar situation to the Twins this year, in that Pedro was going to be a free agent and there was no way they could keep him. At least the Expos got two prospects who made it to the majors and were mediocre. Definitely not a good trade, but it could have been worse.
AJ Pierzynski for Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano, and Boof Bonser.
Delino DeShields..........ahhhhhhh, a blast from the past...LOL I have to agree that the Pierzynski trade was the worst, although as a METS fan I always cringe when I hear the name Victor Zambrano....ugh! Welcome JOHAN!!!
It's strange how someone can criticize some of these trades based only on hindsight.
The Twins were slammed in the press for trading AJ at the time. They got a young long reliever, a struggling former top 100 prospect (BOOF!) and Liriano had thrown a total of 8 innings the previous season due to injuries. Of course it looks great for the Twins now in hindsight.
In addition how can you criticize the Marlins for Johan Santana. That was prearranged before the rule 5 draft the same as the Cubs (I think it was them) selecting Josh Hamilton this year and trading him to the Reds. Santana at the time was an A ball pitcher with 4.5-5 ERA and it probably surprised the Astros that anyone would use a roster spot for him for a year. And Santana absolutely sucked that season compiling a 6.49 ERA.
Now there are some trades that are just terrible from the beginning.
kab21 wrote:It's strange how someone can criticize some of these trades based only on hindsight.
The Twins were slammed in the press for trading AJ at the time. They got a young long reliever, a struggling former top 100 prospect (BOOF!) and Liriano had thrown a total of 8 innings the previous season due to injuries. Of course it looks great for the Twins now in hindsight.
In addition how can you criticize the Marlins for Johan Santana. That was prearranged before the rule 5 draft the same as the Cubs (I think it was them) selecting Josh Hamilton this year and trading him to the Reds. Santana at the time was an A ball pitcher with 4.5-5 ERA and it probably surprised the Astros that anyone would use a roster spot for him for a year. And Santana absolutely sucked that season compiling a 6.49 ERA.
Now there are some trades that are just terrible from the beginning.
kab21 wrote:The Twins were slammed in the press for trading AJ at the time. They got a young long reliever, a struggling former top 100 prospect (BOOF!) and Liriano had thrown a total of 8 innings the previous season due to injuries. Of course it looks great for the Twins now in hindsight.
Most posters thought it was a good move by the Giants. I remember a post about how great Liriano would be at the time but it did not turn up. I don't remember who made it.
Lurking here that winter convinced me to join the cafe.
kab21 wrote:It's strange how someone can criticize some of these trades based only on hindsight.
The Twins were slammed in the press for trading AJ at the time. They got a young long reliever, a struggling former top 100 prospect (BOOF!) and Liriano had thrown a total of 8 innings the previous season due to injuries. Of course it looks great for the Twins now in hindsight.
In addition how can you criticize the Marlins for Johan Santana. That was prearranged before the rule 5 draft the same as the Cubs (I think it was them) selecting Josh Hamilton this year and trading him to the Reds. Santana at the time was an A ball pitcher with 4.5-5 ERA and it probably surprised the Astros that anyone would use a roster spot for him for a year. And Santana absolutely sucked that season compiling a 6.49 ERA.
Now there are some trades that are just terrible from the beginning.
then again the Twins had Joe Mauer, a highly tauted catching prospect waiting in the wing. The Twins would of ended up trading Pierzynski for bottle caps if the Giants didn't give them the offer that they did.
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by thedude » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:58 pm 
) and they lost Santana 
