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Postby TheGhost76777 » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:06 pm

Ok, I know I am not well known around here, but I have finished 1st place in 4 of the past 5 previous seasons in fantasy baseball. I do a lot of research, watch a LOT of baseball, and spend months on my rankings. I just finished them up here recently, and would like to share them with you.

Catchers:
1 Russel Martin, LA
2 Victor Martinez, CLE
3 Brian McCann, ATL
4 Joe Mauer, MIN
5 Jorge Posada, NYY
6 Jarrod Saltalamacchia, TEX
7 J.R. Towels, HOU
8 Kenji Johjima, SEA
9 Josh Bard, SD
10 Geovany Soto, CHC
11 Jason Varitek, BOS
12 Ivan Rodriguez, DET
13 A.J. Pierzynski, CWS
14 Mike Napoli, LAA
15 John Buck, KC
16 Ronny Paulino, PIT
17 Kurt Suzuki, OAK
18 Mike Piazza, FA
19 Benji Molina, SF
20 David Ross, CIN
21 Ramon Hernandez, BAL
22 Johnny Estrada, WAS
23 Chris Snyder, ARZ
24 Yadier Molina, STL
25 Gregg Zaun, TOR

1st Basemen:
1 Albert Pujols, STL
2 David Ortiz, BOS
3 Ryan Howard, PHI
4 Prince Fielder, MIL
5 Mark Teixeria, ATL
6 Lance Berkman, HOU
7 Derrek Lee, CHC
8 Justin Morneau, MIN
9 Travis Hafner, CLE
10 Carlos Pena, TB
11 Adrian Gonzalez, SD
12 Carlos Guillen, DET
13 Jim Thome, CWS
14 Paul Konerko, CWS
15 Ryan Garko, CLE
16 Frank Thomas, TOR
17 Todd Helton, COL
18 James Loney, LAD
19 Jason Giambi, NYY
20 Carlos Delgado, NYM
21 Adam LaRoche, PIT
22 Conor Jackson, ARZ
23 Kevin Youkilis, BOS
24 Dmitri Young, WAS
25 Mike Jacobs, FLA
26 Daric Barton, OAK
27 Richie Sexson, SEA
28 Ryan Shealy, KC
29 Scott Hattenberg, CIN
30 Casey Kotchman, LAA
31 Dan Johnson, OAK
32 Joey Votto, CIN
33 Nomar Garciaparra, LA
34 Kevin Millar, BAL
35 Rich Aurila, SF

Second Basemen:
1 Chase Utley, PHI
2 Brandon Phillips, CIN
3 Brian Roberts, BAL
4 Rickie Weeks, MIL
5 Robinson Cano, NYY
6 Dan Uggla, FLA
7 Ian Kinsler, TEX
8 Jeff Kent, LAD
9 Placido Polanco, DET
10 Dustin Pedroia, BOS
11 Howie Kendrick, LAA
12 Kaz Matsui, HOU
13 Orlando Johnson, ARZ
14 Freddy Sanchez, PIT
15 Jose Vidro, SEA
16 Mark Ellis, OAK
17 Aaron Hill, TOR
18 Asdrubal Cabrera, CLE
19 Kelly Johnson, ATL
20 Luis Castillo, NYM
21 Akinori Iwamura, TB
22 Ronnie Belliard, WAS
23 Ray Durhman, SF
24 Adam Kennedy, STL
25 Mark DeRosa, CHC

Third Basemen:
1 Alex Rodriguez, NYY
2 David Wright, NYM
3 Miguel Cabrera, DET
4 Aramis Ramirez, CHC
5 Ryan Braun, MIL
6 Garret Atkins, COL
7 Chone Figgins, LAA
8 Chipper Jones, ATL
9 Troy Glaus, STL
10 Mike Lowell, BOS
11 Ryan Zimmerman, WAS
12 Adrian Beltre, SEA
13 Hank Blalock, TEX
14 Evan Longoria, TB
15 Kevin Kouzmanoff, SD
16 Alex Gordon, KC
17 Josh Fields, CWS
18 Edwin Encarnation, CIN
19 Scott Rolen, TOR
20 Casey Blake, CLE
21 Eric Chavez, OAK
22 Ty Wiggington, HOU
23 Melvin Mora, BAL
24 Mark Reynolds, ARZ
25 Jorge Cantu, FLA
26 Jose Bautista, PIT
27 Pedro Feliz, PHI
28 Mike Lamb, MIN
29 Andy Marte, CLE
30 Ian Stewart, COL

Short Stops:
1 Hanley Ramirez, FLA
2 Jose Reyes, NYM
3 Jimmy Rollins, PHI
4 Derek Jeter, NYY
5 Michael Young, TEX
6 Troy Tulowitzki, COL
7 Edgar Renteria, DET
8 Rafael Furcal, LAD
9 J.J. Hardy, MIL
10 Miguel Tejada, HOU
11 Jhonny Peralta, CLE
12 Khali Greene, SD
13 Orlando Cabrera, CWS
14 Ryan Theriot, CHC
15 Yunel Escobar, ATL
16 Felipe Lopez, WAS
17 Julio Lugo, BOS
18 Stephen Drew, ARZ
19 Brendan Harris, MIN
20 Bobby Crosby, OAK
21 David Eckstein, TOR
22 Yuniesky Betancourt, SEA
23 Jack Wilson, PIT
24 Alex Gonzalez, CIN
25 Luis Hernandez, BAL

Outfielders:
1 Matt Holliday, COL
2 Carl Crawford, TB
3 Grady Sizemore, CLE
4 Alfonso Soriano, CHC
5 Carlos Beltran, NYM
6 Ichiro Suzuki, SEA
7 Vladimir Guerrero, LAA
8 Maggilo Ordonez, DET
9 Carlos Lee, HOU
10 B.J. Upton, TB
11 Curtis Granderson, DET
12 Chris B. Young, ARZ
13 Bobby Abreu, NYY
14 Eric Byrnes, ARZ
15 Adam Dunn, CIN
16 Brad Hawpe, COL
17 Manny Ramirez, BOS
18 Cory Hart, MIL
19 Nick Markakis, BAL
20 Alex Rios, TOR
21 Hideki Matsui, NYY
22 Johnny Damon, NYY
23 Juan Pierre, LAD
24 Torri Hunter, LAA
25 Jermaine Dye, CWS
26 Shane Victorino, PHI
27 Josh Hamilton, TEX
28 Jeremy Hermida, FLA
29 Jeff Francoeur, ATL
30 Jason Bay, PIT
31 Vernon Wells, TOR
32 Garry Sheffield, DET
33 Ken Griffey Jr., CIN
34 Pat Burrell, PHI
35 Delmon Young, MIN
36 Josh Willingham, FLA
37 Andruw Jones, LAD
38 Kosuke Fukudome, CHC
39 Raul Ibanez, SEA
40 Bill Hall, MIL
41 Dave Roberts, SF
42 Jacoby Ellsbury, BOS
43 Hunter Pence, HOU
44 Willy Taveras, COL
45 Jack Cust, OAK
46 Jay Bruce, CIN
47 Justin Upton, ARZ
48 Wily Mo Pena, WAS
49 Nick Swisher, CWS
50 Franklin Gutierrez, CLE
51 Lastings Millege, WAS
52 Rick Ainkel, STL
53 J.D. Drew, BOS
54 Billy Butler, KC
55 Johnny Gomes, TB
56 Chris Duncan, STL
57 Cody Ross, FLA
58 Nate McLouth, PIT
59 Reggie Willits, LAA
60 Randy Winn, SF
61 Aaron Rowand, SF
62 Jose Guillen, KC
63 Michael Cuddyer, MIN
64 Mark Teahen, KC
65 Mike Cameron, MIL
66 Rocco Baldelli, TB
67 Milton Bradley, TEX
68 Adam Lind, TOR
69 Michael Bourn, HOU
70 Travis Buck, OAK
71 Norris Hopper, CIN
72 Carlos Quentin, CWS
73 Luis Gonzalez, FLA
74 Andre Either, LAD
75 Garrett Anderson, LAA
76 Cliff Floyd, TB
77 Matt Diaz, ATL
78 Gary Matthews, LAA
79 Elijah Dukes, WAS
80 Moises Alou, NYM
81 Geoff Jenkins, PHI
82 Jim Edmonds, SD
83 Matt Stairs, TOR
84 Brian Giles, PIT
85 Matt Kemp, LAD
86 Colby Rasmus, STL
87 Frank Catalanotto, TEX
88 Luke Scott, BAL
89 Felix Pie, CHC
90 Austin Kearns, WAS

Starting Pitchers:

1 Johan Santana, NYM
2 Jake Peavy, SD
3 C.C. Sabathia, CLE
4 Erik Bedard, BAL
5 Josh Beckett, BOS
6 Brandon Webb, ARZ
7 Scott Kazmir, TB
8 Cole Hamels, PHI
9 Carlos Zambrano, CHC
10 Aaron Harrang, CIN
11 Justin Verlander, DET
12 Fausto Carmona, CLE
13 John Lackey, LAA
14 Tim Lincecum, SF
15 A.J. Burnett, TOR
16 Chris Young, SD
17 Dan Haren, ARZ
18 John Smoltz, ATL
19 Kelvim Escobar, LAA
20 Roy Halladay, TOR
21 Roy Oswalt, HOU
22 Chien-Meng Wang, NYY
23 Daisuke Matsuzaka, BOS
24 Yovani Gallardo, MIL
25 Felix Hernandez, SEA
26 James Shields, TB
27 Matt Cain, SF
28 Curt Schilling, BOS
29 Javier Vazquez, CWS
30 Jered Weaver, LAA
31 Rich Hill, CHC
32 Ben Sheets, MIL
33 Brad Penny, LAD
34 Dustin McGowan, TOR
35 Ian Snell, PIT
36 Matt Garza, TB
37 Chad Billingsley, LAD
38 Fransisco Liriano, MIN
39 Joba Chamberlain, NYY
40 Jeremy Bonderman, DET
41 Tim Hudson, ATL
42 Joe Blaton, OAK
43 Mark Buehrle, CWS
44 Bronson Arroyo, CIN
45 Clay Bucholtz, BOS
46 Oliver Perez, NYM
47 John Maine, NYM
48 Shaun Marcum, TOR
49 Adam Wainwright, STL
50 Tom Gorzelanny, PIT
51 Jeremy Guthrie, BAL
52 Zack Greinke, KC
53 Phil Hughes, NYY
54 Jon Lester, BOS
55 Pedro Martinez, NYM
56 Rich Harden, OAK
57 Andrew Miller, FLA
58 Homer Bailey, CIN
59 Brett Myers, PHI
60 Ted Lilly, CHC
61 Andy Pettitte, NYY
62 Boof Bonser, MIL
63 Gil Meche, KC
64 Jon Garland, LAA
65 Greg Maddux, SD
66 Barry Zito, SF
67 Jeff Francis, COL
68 Derek Lowe, LAD
69 Brian Bannister, KC
70 Shawn Hill, WAS
71 Noah Lowry, SF
72 Ubaldo Jimenez, COL
73 Tom Glavine, ATL
74 Adam Loewan, BAL
75 Edinson Volquez, CIN
76 Scott Olsen, FLA
77 Aaron Laffey, CLE
78 Chris Capuano, MIL
79 Brandon Morrow, SEA
80 Joel Pineiro, STL
81 Orlando Hernandez, NYM
82 Wandy Rodriguez, HOU
83 Freddy Garcia, FA
84 Chris Sampson, HOU
85 Jeremy Sowers, CLE
86 Kevin Slowey, MIN
87 Kason Gabbard, TEX
88 Daniel Cabrera, BAL
89 Andy Sonnanstine, TB
90 Brandon McCarthy, TEX

Closers:
1 Jonathon Papelbon, BOS
2 Fransisco Rodriguez, LAA
3 J.J. Putz, SEA
4 Joe Nathan, MIN
5 Bobby Jenks, CWS
6 Billy Wagner, NYM
7 Takashi Saito, LAD
8 Trevor Hoffman, SD
9 Mariano Rivera, NYY
10 Rafael Soriano, ATL
11 Brad Lidge, PHI
12 Fransisco Cordero, CIN
13 Joakim Soria, KC
14 Jason Isringhausen, STL
15 B.J. Ryan, TOR
16 Huston Street, OAK
17 Chad Cordero, WAS
18 Jose Valverde, HOU
19 Matt Capps, PIT
20 Manuel Corpas, COL
21 Tony Pena, ARZ
22 C.J. Wilson, TEX
23 Troy Percival, TB
24 Eric Gagne, MIL
25 Kevin Gregg, FLA
26 Carlos Marmol, CHC
27 Joe Borowski, CLE
28 Todd Jones, DET
29 Brad Hennessey, SF
30 Kerry Wood, CHC
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Re: ***The Ghost's 2008 Fantasy Rankings***

Postby Snakes Gould » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:09 pm

these look pretty good. a few disagreements, but overall solid rankings...

bj upton still has 2b eligibility, as does figgins
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Re: ***The Ghost's 2008 Fantasy Rankings***

Postby smoovethug » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:34 pm

Yeah solid rankings. Just a few things that caught my eye:

Martin over V-Mart; Bengie is pretty low.
Weeks at 4? Above Kinsler, Cano, Kent...wow.
Hardy at 9 seems high.
Hawpe above Manny, Markakis, Rios?
Pence at.....43? 8-o
Carmona at 12 above Lackey?
Haren, Halladay, Oswalt seem low.
Myers at 59?

Good job though. I'm sure alot of time and study went into your rankings, just a few differences of opinion is all.
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:27 pm

A few changes I would make, but good rankings overall they are. :-D
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Re: ***The Ghost's 2008 Fantasy Rankings***

Postby TheGhost76777 » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:44 pm

Thanks guys.

To answer the previous questions:

Martin over V-Mart - Martin improves each year, plus he gives you 20 SB from the catcher position. Although if Hanfer rebounds Martinez could get a load of RBI's.

Weeks at 4 - Look at his numbers, namely RBI and Run totals, then look at the amount of AB's. He could go 30/30 with 100+ runs this season.

Hardy at 9 seems high - I really like hardy, I think he repeats last years #s.

Hawpe above Manny, Markakis, Rios - Hawpe was among the leaders in RC27 last year, ahead of each one of those guys. He is also going to get a ton of RBIs in that Rockies lineup.

Pence at.....43? I fear the almighty Sophomore slump

Carmona at 12 above Lackey? Carmona is the nastiest pitcher I have seen since Pedro on the Red Sox. With a very good Indians team, Carmona could be in for a HUGE year.

Haren, Halladay, Oswalt seem low - Halladay and Oswalts #s, namely K/9 have been decreasing. Also, I don't see Oswalt winning a bunch of games on a less than stellar Houston team.

Myers at 59 - Not a fan of him (no offense.)
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Re: ***The Ghost's 2008 Fantasy Rankings***

Postby mariners47 » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:15 pm

I think the only reason Houston is less than stellar is pitchers 2-5 in their rotation. Their offense should give him plenty of support with Pence-Berk-Lee-Tejada(maybe). And their bullpen should be better than last year. I could see Oswalt winning 18 and Houston winning 65. The fact that the rest of the rotation sucks doesn't mean Oswalt will be any worse.

Also the sophomore slump is a myth, and has been proven so many times over. If you have an actual statistical or scouting reason Pence might decline then so be it.

One other thing I'm not sure of is comparing Carmona to Pedro. Pedro strikes guys out.
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Re: ***The Ghost's 2008 Fantasy Rankings***

Postby CadensDad » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:10 am

Theres a few I disagree with and some that I think are just crazy, I.E. Salty 6th best catcher? Kelly johnson 19th 2b? troy Glaus 9th? Brad Hawpe 16th? Josh Hamilton 27th? Tim Lincecum 14th

But solid rankings overall, thanks for sharing
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Re: ***The Ghost's 2008 Fantasy Rankings***

Postby Glexar111 » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:28 am

nice ranking man,thanks for sharing it with us.but there a couple of things that i strongly disagreee

Beltre at 12th?that's just too high for him man.i would rank blalock in front of him(provided he stays healthy),gordon,longoria and even Josh Fields in front of him.

im still not sure whether weeks can reach 30/30 and 100 runs as you predicted though.i have this feeling he wont have much success as last year lol

i would rank Jeff Francouer higher than 29th.he's one of those players for me that are destined for a breakout year this season.look how many doubles he hit last year.chances are,half of those are gonna turn in homers this year

thats about.other than that, great list you've got there
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Re: ***The Ghost's 2008 Fantasy Rankings***

Postby smoovethug » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:59 am

TheGhost76777 wrote:Carmona at 12 above Lackey? Carmona is the nastiest pitcher I have seen since Pedro on the Red Sox. With a very good Indians team, Carmona could be in for a HUGE year.

Haren, Halladay, Oswalt seem low - Halladay and Oswalts #s, namely K/9 have been decreasing. Also, I don't see Oswalt winning a bunch of games on a less than stellar Houston team.


Halladay and Oswalt are horses. They were never really great strikeout pitchers but they boosted their K totals by going so many innings. So I don't agree with your point about their declining k/9 especially since Carmona's K/9 is lower than both of theirs. I also don't look too far into the team of the pitcher. Sure Carmona pitches for a good team, he'll get his fair share of run support but he still has to go out there and pitch. Wins are just one category and they depend on so much that the pitcher can't control. The team has to score for you and the bullpen has to hold your leads. Gaudy win totals don't necessarily mean that you are a good pitcher ('03 Russ Ortiz anyone?). Cain and Lincecum won't net you many wins but they will be very solid pitchers, arguably better than Carmona.
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Re: ***The Ghost's 2008 Fantasy Rankings***

Postby Ender » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:36 am

mariners47 wrote:I think the only reason Houston is less than stellar is pitchers 2-5 in their rotation. Their offense should give him plenty of support with Pence-Berk-Lee-Tejada(maybe). And their bullpen should be better than last year. I could see Oswalt winning 18 and Houston winning 65. The fact that the rest of the rotation sucks doesn't mean Oswalt will be any worse.

Also the sophomore slump is a myth, and has been proven so many times over. If you have an actual statistical or scouting reason Pence might decline then so be it.

One other thing I'm not sure of is comparing Carmona to Pedro. Pedro strikes guys out.



That will still be a pretty average offense since the rest of the lineup is pretty mediocre. Pence is coming off of a year that was better than expected and off of a wrist injury, I'm not big on him either.

While I'm not as high on Carmona as the original poster he did have a 6.7 K/9 in the second half last yaer which is more than enough to post great numbers when you sport a 65% GB rate. His stats look a lot like Webb's a couple years ago and if he gets his K/9 up even a little bit they look a lot like Webb from last year.
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