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Postby tool069c » Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:42 pm

JoeCredeForPresident wrote:I'll tell you who is gonna do great next year...


JOE CREDE!!


i agree 110%

As for the yankees with arod, how much better is arod and say sojo at 2nd, then soriano and boone if he didn't hurt himself?

IMO, i think they are slower and probly not as good...but thats me...
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Postby thaklanksta » Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:19 pm

No way Lieber gets 15.

12 if he is lucky.
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Postby GSes » Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:27 pm

No way. Simply exchanging arod for soriano dosent mean that in a 162 game season the yanks SP will all win 17+. That is unreal.

I think as far as wins go

Mussina 20
Vazquez 18
Brown 17
Contreras 14
Liber 11

and even that is greatly pushing it.
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Postby tool069c » Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:29 pm

Adding arod will give them maybe 2-3 wins more over the entire season, soriano is a great player, and i'de still take soriano and boone, albeit healthy, over arod and whatever bum they put at 2nd...
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:39 pm

It sure is a good thing there are 4 other pitching catagories besides wins. Personally, Im not goona touch any of the Yankees SPs unless they somehow fall too far. I care too much about whip and era. But hey, maybe the move improves their defense, I mean, you cant get much worse than Soriano, so maybe they did upgrade their D too.

If I cared only about wins Id draft Pettitte.
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Postby Mercer Boy » Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:44 pm

thaklanksta wrote:No way Lieber gets 15.

12 if he is lucky.


I hope I don't have this backwards.

I seem to remember the Pirates' announcers saying when Lieber was with the team that in even-numbered years, he normally does really well and in odd-numbered years, he does poorly or gets hurt. Well, the Yanks have him now in 2004!!! Watch out!
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Postby blankman » Mon Feb 16, 2004 7:29 pm

tool069c wrote:
JoeCredeForPresident wrote:I'll tell you who is gonna do great next year...


JOE CREDE!!


i agree 110%

As for the yankees with arod, how much better is arod and say sojo at 2nd, then soriano and boone if he didn't hurt himself?

IMO, i think they are slower and probly not as good...but thats me...


But Boone IS hurt. Your point is moot, since you can't uninjure Boone and take the trade back. Sure you can say IF he wasn't hurt, but it makes no difference. Given Boone's injury, the team is better now simply because A-Rod is better than Soriano. And when Boone comes back, possibly around the 100 game mark I've heard, their infield will be much better with him at 2B especially defensively. Again its IF, so it doesn't matter.

Yes they are slower, but with their lineup I can't see Torre letting his baserunners run them out of innings just to move up a base when they have so much power throughout the lineup.
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Postby WharfRat » Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:40 pm

Cornbread Maxwell wrote:It sure is a good thing there are 4 other pitching catagories besides wins. Personally, Im not goona touch any of the Yankees SPs unless they somehow fall too far. I care too much about whip and era. But hey, maybe the move improves their defense, I mean, you cant get much worse than Soriano, so maybe they did upgrade their D too.

If I cared only about wins Id draft Pettitte.


Mussina had a very good WHIP and ERA last year, and he'll top that 17 wins I bet, with 200K. I understand Vazquez has pretty good WHIP and ERA totals too, and is a big strikeout guy. He'll win more than 15 (which I think he's never done before on a crappy montreal team...?) And I WOULD point out Kevin Brown, but a guy who's gonna miss a dozen starts isn't all that much help.
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Postby Transmogrifier » Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:42 pm

tlef316 wrote:no team's starters can win that many games in the modern era, no matter how good the offense is. i think moose will win 19-20, but your predictions are a little bit overzealous


Agreed. Moose will be great, probably Vaz, too. But that many wins is insane.
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Re: Hot stock tip...this one is about to explode!!

Postby HOOTIE » Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:57 pm

Y`s Guy wrote:The stock on Yankee SPs just went through the roof.

Vazquez and Moose are sure-fire 20-game winners and Brown may sniff 20, too. Without ARod I think these guys were topping off no higher than 17. Look for Contreras to get 17 and Lieber maybe 15?

A Yankee SP is pure money. Lov'em or hat'em, this is fantasy baseball, boys.

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I will bet you a Andrew Jackson that NY doesn't have 2 20 game winners, and Lieber doesn't win 15?
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