Anonymous wrote:Not because that is the thing to say but because that is the thing that does invaribly happen. A lot of young pitchers hit the majors and hitters are facing them for the first time and get blown away. Dontrelle Willis did it as well last year but when he came up against the same hitters again later in the season he wasn't so dominant.
sorry, cut some of the quote out
Sigh........ this is getting tedious. Shouldn't even waste my time on someone that hasn't got the bottle to sign up but anyways just for him.
The hitter gets blown away you idiot not the pitcher. Where the hell have I said anything about hitters having a handle on him? Again all I said was you could expect "SOMEWHAT OF A SLUMP" based on the fact of familiarity.
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Anonymous wrote:Not because that is the thing to say but because that is the thing that does invaribly happen. A lot of young pitchers hit the majors and hitters are facing them for the first time and get blown away. Dontrelle Willis did it as well last year but when he came up against the same hitters again later in the season he wasn't so dominant.
sorry, cut some of the quote out
Sigh........ this is getting tedious. Shouldn't even waste my time on someone that hasn't got the bottle to sign up but anyways just for him.
The hitter gets blown away you idiot not the pitcher. Where the hell have I said anything about hitters having a handle on him? Again all I said was you could expect "SOMEWHAT OF A SLUMP" based on the fact of familiarity.
Anonymous wrote:Not because that is the thing to say but because that is the thing that does invaribly happen. A lot of young pitchers hit the majors and hitters are facing them for the first time and get blown away. Dontrelle Willis did it as well last year but when he came up against the same hitters again later in the season he wasn't so dominant.
sorry, cut some of the quote out
Sigh........ this is getting tedious. Shouldn't even waste my time on someone that hasn't got the bottle to sign up but anyways just for him.
The hitter gets blown away you idiot not the pitcher. Where the hell have I said anything about hitters having a handle on him? Again all I said was you could expect "SOMEWHAT OF A SLUMP" based on the fact of familiarity.
Correct me if I'm wrong...you were using Willis to illustrate your point and you stated that he was dominant the first time he faced hitters, blowing them away... but when teams faced him later in the season he wasn't so dominant. Isn't this another way of saying that the hitters got a handle on him the second or third time around???
Anonymous wrote:Not because that is the thing to say but because that is the thing that does invaribly happen. A lot of young pitchers hit the majors and hitters are facing them for the first time and get blown away. Dontrelle Willis did it as well last year but when he came up against the same hitters again later in the season he wasn't so dominant.
sorry, cut some of the quote out
Willis faded because he had never pitched that many innings before. He had a nice Sept. Webbs only down month was Sept., more a fatigue thing then anything. It doesn't take 4-5 months for hitters to figure out pitchers.
Webb had such a great rookie year, a decrease is expected. However, just because it's the 2nd year isn't a reason. Only 35% of guys decrease their 2nd year.
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Anonymous wrote:Not because that is the thing to say but because that is the thing that does invaribly happen. A lot of young pitchers hit the majors and hitters are facing them for the first time and get blown away. Dontrelle Willis did it as well last year but when he came up against the same hitters again later in the season he wasn't so dominant.
sorry, cut some of the quote out
Willis faded because he had never pitched that many innings before. He had a nice Sept. Webbs only down month was Sept., more a fatigue thing then anything. It doesn't take 4-5 months for hitters to figure out pitchers.
Webb had such a great rookie year, a decrease is expected. However, just because it's the 2nd year isn't a reason. Only 35% of guys decrease their 2nd year.
DJUmperPSU wrote:Obviously Wolf, Clemens, Nomo, Webb.... dont know how anyone can rate clemens last.
Because he might miss a bunch of games with his "Nolan Ryan" clause
I wouldnt be one bit surprise if Webb gets hit hard early on. I dont think he will beta top 15.
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