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Postby raiders_umpire » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:14 am

top 30 Rays prospects.


Here's the Rays top 30:


1 Evan Longoria
2 David Price
3 Jake McGee
4 Wade Davis
5 Reid Brignac
6 Desmond Jennings
7 Jeff Niemann
8 Jeremy Hellickson
9 Ryan Royster
10 Chris Mason
11 Glenn Gibson
12 Juan Salas
13 John Jaso
14 Alex Cobb
15 Eduardo Morlan
16 Josh Butler
17 Nick Barnese
18 James Houser
19 Heath Rollins
20 Matt Walker
21 Mitch Talbot
22 Mike McCormick
23 Will Kline
24 Wade Townsend
25 Fernando Perez
26 Nevin Ashley
27 Justin Ruggiano
28 Rhyne Hughes
29 Joel Guzman
30 D.J. Jones
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Postby raiders_umpire » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:15 am

The top 6 or 7 are pretty easy to figure out, but a sleeper at the bottom is DJ Jones. I think he can easily move up to around 10 or so this time next year.
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Postby jlm53089 » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:23 pm

And that is why we have the number 1 farm system in baseball.
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Re: Baseball America

Postby deerayfan072 » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:13 pm

McGee and Davis are 3 A and 3 B in my mind
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Postby raiders_umpire » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:48 am

deerayfan072 wrote:McGee and Davis are 3 A and 3 B in my mind





Depends on how you look at it. I think McGee's ceiling is a bit higher, where as Davis is more of sure thing. With most prospect rankings, the guys with the higher ceilings are ranked a bit higher. If I could only take one though with our current staff at the big league level, my choice would be Davis as I think we need more of the sure thing and a guy that can be from average to good instead of the guy that may be very good or may be below average.


Still though a future staff of

Kazmir
Price
Shields
Niemann
Davis
McGee
Sonny

gives us lots of options for sure.
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Re: Baseball America

Postby deerayfan072 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:51 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:McGee and Davis are 3 A and 3 B in my mind





Depends on how you look at it. I think McGee's ceiling is a bit higher, where as Davis is more of sure thing. With most prospect rankings, the guys with the higher ceilings are ranked a bit higher. If I could only take one though with our current staff at the big league level, my choice would be Davis as I think we need more of the sure thing and a guy that can be from average to good instead of the guy that may be very good or may be below average.


Still though a future staff of

Kazmir
Price
Shields
Niemann
Davis
McGee
Sonny

gives us lots of options for sure.


Definitely. You think McGee becomes a closer in the future? I have read some stuff on that :-?
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Re: Baseball America

Postby raiders_umpire » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:58 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
Definitely. You think McGee becomes a closer in the future? I have read some stuff on that :-?




I really hope not. Relief pitching, while valuable, at the end of the year really doesn't mean that huge of a difference between winning and losing. I would much rather have our 5 best pitchers being our 5 starting pitchers. McGee has huge potential, maybe as much as a very good #2 SP in the bigs. I would hate to waste that in the pen if it meant having 2 or 3 guys in the rotation not as good as McGee. If McGee just doesn't work out then, of course he could become a very solid closer. Heck even Rivera started out as a starter and failed there.
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Re: Baseball America

Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:51 pm

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Definitely. You think McGee becomes a closer in the future? I have read some stuff on that :-?




I really hope not. Relief pitching, while valuable, at the end of the year really doesn't mean that huge of a difference between winning and losing. I would much rather have our 5 best pitchers being our 5 starting pitchers. McGee has huge potential, maybe as much as a very good #2 SP in the bigs. I would hate to waste that in the pen if it meant having 2 or 3 guys in the rotation not as good as McGee. If McGee just doesn't work out then, of course he could become a very solid closer. Heck even Rivera started out as a starter and failed there.


We have a lot of young stud pitchers. They are going to have to make some decisions on some of them in the future. I honestly believe that Kaz will be not be signed to a long term deal because he wants too much money and we will have him until his Arbitration years are over. We will need these other guys to pan out in the rotation if that does happen.
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Re: Baseball America

Postby raiders_umpire » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:48 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
We have a lot of young stud pitchers. They are going to have to make some decisions on some of them in the future. I honestly believe that Kaz will be not be signed to a long term deal because he wants too much money and we will have him until his Arbitration years are over. We will need these other guys to pan out in the rotation if that does happen.



I have a feeling that Kaz is going to have such a huge 2008 that the front office will have no choice but to pay him up at the end of the year. I imagine then Davis will become the trade bait, I just hope he gets a chance to prove himself at the major league level this year so we can get a good return on that investment.
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Re: Baseball America

Postby deerayfan072 » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:59 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:
deerayfan072 wrote:
We have a lot of young stud pitchers. They are going to have to make some decisions on some of them in the future. I honestly believe that Kaz will be not be signed to a long term deal because he wants too much money and we will have him until his Arbitration years are over. We will need these other guys to pan out in the rotation if that does happen.



I have a feeling that Kaz is going to have such a huge 2008 that the front office will have no choice but to pay him up at the end of the year. I imagine then Davis will become the trade bait, I just hope he gets a chance to prove himself at the major league level this year so we can get a good return on that investment.


I think he will have a huge year as well. I just don't see them spending that much on one player. I hope I am wrong, but even with all the money they have started to spend, they have maintained that they are a small market team and cannot afford to pay a lot for one player. They look for bargains.
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