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McLaren: "Ichiro could steal 80"

Postby Bwanna » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:42 pm

Jon Shields, MVN.com wrote:Seattle to be Aggressive on the Basepaths in ‘08
By Jon Shields | January 26th, 2008

In 2007 our Seattle Mariners had just two baserunners reach double digits in steals. Ichiro stole 37 and Adrian Beltre swiped 14. John McLaren is starting his first season as the Mariners’ skipper, and he is ready to get more aggressive on the basepaths in 2008.

Back at the Winter Meetings McLaren was asked how many bases Ichiro could steal. “Let’s just say 80 to start with,” he responded. “Let’s go there.”

“I think Betancourt has got the capabilities of being a 20-plus stolen base guy,” McLaren was also quoted as saying in the same media session.

Thursday at the annual Spring Training luncheon hosted at Safeco Field, McLaren backed up his statements. “Ichiro can walk backwards and steal 40 bases, he’s on base more than anybody.”

The manager talked about being aggressive all game long, and having a “daredevil” or “riverboat gambler” attitude on the basepaths next season.

“I want Betancourt running more for sure,” he said, also mentioning Adam Jones and Jose Lopez. He continued a few minutes later, “I would like to see Betancourt stealing some bases– 20, 30, 40. I mean, he’s got that type of talent.”

Will Ichiro steal 80 bases? I doubt it, but he may set a new career high if Mac continues to emphasize the running game. Yuniesky Betancourt, despite swiping just five bases last season, actually does have some stealing capabilities. He stole 20 in his first pro year back in 2005 between AA San Antonio, AAA Tacoma and Seattle (161 games total).

Seattle also announced on Thursday that they are planning on bringing in Rich Amaral as one of the Spring Training guest coaches. Amaral meant to Mariners teams of the 1990s what Willie Bloomquist means to this current team. He didn’t get a lot of playing time, but when he did it could be at any given position and he knew how to swipe a base in crucial situations. Amaral stole almost 100 bases for the Mariners between 1992 and 1998 in limited action. Amaral, along with fellow guest coach Tony Phillips, will be working with the players on their stealing technique.

It should be an exciting year if McLaren sticks to his guns and gets these guys running. There is nothing quite like watching a runner take matters into his own hands, racing the catcher’s throw to second base.
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Re: McLaren: "Ichiro could steal 80"

Postby Grounded Polo » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:50 pm

80 would be insane but Ichiro's just a freak, I would not be surprised if he could pull it off if that was an official team goal.
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Re: McLaren: "Ichiro could steal 80"

Postby OneLoveBoomer » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:51 pm

So maybe about 50-60 bases then? Still quite decent.
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Re: McLaren: "Ichiro could steal 80"

Postby Tavish » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:56 pm

He can also hit 40 HRs and post a sub 3 ERA if he wanted to...
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Re: McLaren: "Ichiro could steal 80"

Postby Grounded Polo » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:04 pm

Tavish wrote:He can also hit 40 HRs and post a sub 3 ERA if he wanted to...


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Postby Bwanna » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:05 pm

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Re: McLaren: "Ichiro could steal 80"

Postby CadensDad » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:15 pm

Yea, I think this is pretty impressive, 80 seems crazy, but i'm sure 45-55 seems about right, this has got to help his draft value some
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Re: McLaren: "Ichiro could steal 80"

Postby Matthias » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:58 pm

Sounds like some coach has been hanging out with Ozzie in the off-season.

I don't like it... sure, Ichiro could swipe more bags, but will he be helping the team any more? At one point last year, he had gone something like a calendar year without being caught stealing... highly effective for his team. As it was, he finished with 8 CS and a success ratio just over 80%: just a bit above the break-even point of helping his team. So if he starts trying to steal in riskier situations, it might be to the detriment of the Mariners, even if he does add 10 or more to his yearly total.
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Re: McLaren: "Ichiro could steal 80"

Postby bigken117 » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:22 pm

Remember when Adam Dunn was going to steal 40 or something like that? Teams and players say all sorts of crazy things before the games really begin.
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Re: McLaren: "Ichiro could steal 80"

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:29 pm

good news, ichiro is one of my keepers!
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