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Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:22 am

cap at 95 mil for each team, in the () are FA years of the player, 2008 means they expire after the 2008 season. In order to retain guys after they expire, you either pay them around market price(good SP=15-20mil a year for 3-5 years) or you franchise him for 11mil and 2 years. I'm the A's(read: I'm cheap)

Kind of doing what the real A's are doing here. Except not as drastic. I did went to the WS last year and lead the AL in regular season play. I figure I need to save some bullet just in case I'm good again this year. So this is not a complete rebuild. Just some retooling.

Deal 1:
A's send
Jeremy Bonderman $400,000(2008)

Brewers send
Manny Parra-LHP-prospect
Caleb Gindl-OF-prospect
Eric Farris-2B/SS-prospect

Deal 2:
A's send
Wil Ledezma $300,000 (2008)
Jack Cust $300,000(2008)

Nationals send
Josh Smoker-LHP-prospect
Adam Carr-RHP-prospect

I think Parra, if healthy, can fill in Bonderman's shoe at least decently. Hopefully he'll outperform Bonderman's number last year, but then again, I dropped Bonderman from my MLB roster for that last horrible stretch so his value was probably a 4.2ERA for me. Gindl looks promising but is far away. Farris is just a generic middle infield prospect.

Deal 2, I have an of of Rios, Holliday, Ethier and Swisher already. I think at least 3 of them will work out and hopefully the 4th and Chris Shelton and Ryan Shealy(I have Ortiz starting at 1B) will fill in the Util role fine. Plus I got Michael Bourn in the minors that could contribute soon. So I'm dealing from depth here. Now Cust's power production might not be replaced, but I do get a good spec out of Smoker and I could use some RP help sometime soon in Adam Carr.


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Re: thoughts on those 2 deals for prospects?

Postby kab21 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:58 am

Deal 1 - I like it cause I'm down on Bonderman right now since ended the season with right elbow strain. And to me that puts a red flag up on him (to me at least). Of course Parra has spent his fair share of time injured. But if you don't think that you can sign Bonderman after 2008 then getting Parra and 2 others out of the deal works out IMO. But bonderman will likely outperform Parra this year by a decent amount as long as he doesn't get injured.

Deal 2 - I also like since it's a good sell high on Cust and you have depth. Ethier and Bourn as backups should be solid. IMO I don't see alot of upside beyond his 2007 numbers from Cust. He's a good AAAA slugger that I don't think will hold a full-time starting job. He's good when he plays, but you're getting solid prospects in return. Smoker has upside, but as you say could take some time.

If you think you have enough depth to withstand the loss of the veterans this year then both trades work out. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: thoughts on those 2 deals for prospects?

Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:16 pm

This is my general starting lineup now

28 teams dynasty, 5x5+OBP and Holds

SP Tim Lincecum 300k(2011)
SP Matt Cain 300k(2011)
SP Brad Penny 5.1mil(2008)
SP James Shields 300k(2011)
SP Zack Greinke 300k(2009)
SP Wandy Rodriguez 300k(2010)

and whoever of the below group that works out as a SP
Hong Chih Kuo
Manny Parra
Kevin Mulvey(whenever he gets here)
Matt Harrison(same)
Virgil Vasquez(if he can get a spot in Detroit, a lot of things needs to go wrong though)
Dana Eveland(should have an opening in Oakland)

RP
Jared Burton 300k
Brad Hennessey 300k(2010)
Craig Coffey 300k(2010)
Jon Rauch 320k(2009)
Jesse Crain 321k(2010)
Jeremy Accardo 300k(2011)

Whoever of the below group that works out
Chin Hui Tsao 317k(2010)
Wes Littleton 300k(2011)
Bill Bray 300k(2011)
Franquelis Osoria 500k(2008)
Ron Flores 300k

Catcher
Kurt Suzuki 300k(2011)

1B
David Ortiz 11mil(2009)
Ryan Shealy 300k(2011)
Chris Shelton 300k(2010)

2B
Luis Castillo 6.5mil(2009)
Wilson Betemit 300k(2010)
Ruben Gotay

3B
Eric Chavez 8.5mil(2010)

SS
Edgar Renteria 8mil(2008)(team option 2009)
Ronny Cedeno

OF
Matt Holliday 316k(2009)
Andre Ethier 300k(2011)
Nick Swisher 316.5k(2010)
Alex Rios 331k(2009)
Michael Bourn


what are my weakness now I need to address?
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