1. Clemens - was using since 98 2. Pettite - not till 2002 3. David Justice - after 2000 WS 4. Jose Canseco - bench player that was using 5. Chuck Knoublach - used in 2001 6. Denny Neagle - started in 2000 7. Mike Stanton - used in 2003 8. Jason Grimsley - can't find exact time he started, but I'll assume he was
Clemens threw 8 shutout innings, Neagle gave up 2 runs in 4.2 innings, Grimsley didn't even pitch, and Caseco was 0-1 in his 1 ab.
Neagle wasn't even very good when he pitched, so your whole argument hinges on Clemens. It's pretty obvious that you didn't put any thought into this other than looking for a reason to discredit the Yankees using the Mitchell Report.
The bad thing about all the steroid talk, is how people want to discount Bonds records and stats. Yet the ultimate goal, and the most important thing is rings, not stats or records. But those that discount Bonds, don't imply the same standard to tainted team rings.
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gws226 wrote:I think its hard to put Astericks on records, and championships but based purely on the mitchell report, I'd have to say if there ever was a case to put an asterick on a record/event... My vote would go to the 2000 Yankees World title.
There were 8 players on the roster that are directly mentioned in the Mitchell report. 1. Clemens 2. Pettite 3. David Justice 4. Jose Canseco 5. Chuck Knoublach 6. Denny Neagle 7. Mike Stanton 8. Jason Grimsley
For the sake of history, the players in the report contributed.... 3 Wins: Game 1,2,5 28.1 Innings, 7R, 5ER
Game 1: Difference Maker: Knoblauch scores tying run in bottom of the ninth Game 2: Difference Maker: David Justice scores on Jeter single in 5th (mets go on to score 5 in bottom of the ninth, but come up one run short) lose 6-5 Game 4: Difference Maker: With 2 on and 1 out in the 8th, Stanton comes on and strikes out both Trammel and Harris to end the threat.