cordscords wrote:I like the trade. Of course I wouldnt have dealt Lidge in the first place along with the other moves Wade has made, but based on what has happened this trade makes sense.
I kind of agree with this in that I wouldn't have dealt Lidge to begin with. Bourn might turn into a decent lead off type hitter, might, but Lidge was a darn good pitcher.
Now, they deal their most dependable bullpen arm in Qualls, who has had three very solid seasons in a row, to get back a talented, but volatile and somewhat inconsistent closer (sounds like a certain former 'Stros closer). Great 2005 and 2007, pretty awful 2006. In addition, they trade Gutierrez, the #4 prospect in the Astros system according to Baseball America (#4 prior to trading Patton, so I suppose he would've been #3 actually).
That said, Valverde should be pretty decent for them, he's got nasty stuff. I think, fantasy wise, he will certainly see fewer save opportunities in Houston. I don't know who in that bullpen (or the rotation) is going to be able to get the ball to Jose with the lead. That guy used to be Qualls...
In the end, I understand this trade from Houston's perspective, Valverde's a quality arm, but I think ultimately Wade burned himself by dealing Lidge. Now he just had to deal three more players to get back...another Brad Lidge. I might be oversimplifying this a little bit, but doesn't it ultimately shake out like this:
I think I'd rather have the former list with two quality pitchers and another potential one in Gutierrez. Bourn really has to make that exchange worth it.