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Postby gatorgreenwell » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:55 pm

NEW YORK -- WNBC.com's Jonathan Dienst has obtained names expected to be on George Mitchell's list of baseball players linked to performance-enhancing drugs. Baseball officials are refuting some names on the list.

Two separate sources provided WNBC.com with a detailed list of names of ballplayers expected to be included in the Mitchell report, which will be released at 2 p.m. Thursday.

After WNBC.com posted this list, a spokesman for Major League Baseball told WNBC.com that there were several discrepancies between the list posted and Mitchell’s list.


Jonathan Dienst went back to the two sources with access to Mitchell's findings. Both sources maintain the list given to WNBC.com is complete and accurate.

WNBC.com made a second call to the MLB official refuting the list. He would not say which names on the list provided by two separate sources are incorrect. Yet another source suggests WNBC.com was given a draft copy by our two original sources, not the final copy being released today.

The list contains multple MVP and Cy Young award winners. The list is littered with names of All-Stars past and present and included two sets of brothers.

ESPN.com has been reporting New York Yankees pitchers Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte are on the list.

WNBC.com is no longer posting the list. We are actively working the list and we will be updating the situation as soon as journalistically possible.
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Postby acsguitar » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:05 pm

Don't we just have to read the report?
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Postby Snakes Gould » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:09 pm

acsguitar wrote:Don't we just have to read the report?


thats what i was thinking...ive browsed through the report alittle bit myself...
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:24 pm

WNBC is saying that the report is incomplete.
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Postby BillyHallDisciple » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:25 pm

The frickin' report is 600 pages long, how could it possibly be incomplete?
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Postby brewcrew4you » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:40 pm

I think the message is that the first list that was released today - the one with Pujols, both Giambi brothers, etc. - was the real list, but for whatever reason (and I'd go with lack of verifiable evidence), the list was trimmed to the one included in the Report.

The Report was clearly not finalized until this week, as it includes Gagne's signing with the Brewers, which did not officially occur until Monday.
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Postby knapplc » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:45 pm

We can infer that it is not complete if we also infer that the sources Mitchell talked to weren't the only sources. The evidence he's citing - personal checks, etc - are rather overt bits of evidence. The very fact that this investigation did not have subpoena power makes it a voluntary exercise, and thus a sham.
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Re: wnbc believes list not complete-stands by first list

Postby eftda » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:35 pm

knapplc wrote:We can infer that it is not complete if we also infer that the sources Mitchell talked to weren't the only sources. The evidence he's citing - personal checks, etc - are rather overt bits of evidence. The very fact that this investigation did not have subpoena power makes it a voluntary exercise, and thus a sham.


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Re: wnbc believes list not complete-stands by first list

Postby gatorgreenwell » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:57 pm

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DECEMBER 14--Shortly after ESPN broke the news yesterday that Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte would be nailed in the Mitchell Report, WNBC-TV, the NBC affiliate in New York, blew the story wide open. "Newschannel 4's Jonathan Dienst has obtained the expected list of current and former major league players linked to steroids, according to George Mitchell's investigation," reported the station's web site at 11:23 AM. The WNBC story then unspooled a list of 75 purported juicers, including Albert Pujols, Johnny Damon, Jason Varitek, Nomar Garciaparra, Ivan Rodriguez, Jeff Bagwell, Milton Bradley, Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Trot Nixon, Mike Cameron, Brady Anderson, Albert Belle, Kyle Farnsworth, and Wally Joyner. The WNBC exclusive, which is reprinted below, was posted seven minutes after an identical list of names was published by the sports blog Deadspin, which reported that it had been forwarded the names by "about 25 different people" during the preceding hour. The list, which was whipping around via e-mail, "could very likely be one of those Web urban legends that somehow got around," Deadspin cautioned. WNBC, though, showed no such reserve. The station reported that it had received the list from "two separate sources" (which was still 23 "sources" fewer than Deadspin). But after WNBC posted the list, baseball officials began refuting the story, with the station reporting that Major League Baseball brass said there were "several discrepancies between the list posted and Mitchell's list." As it turned out, it was several dozen "discrepancies," with nearly half the names in WNBC's story not appearing in Mitchell's report. In fact, every name above--from Pujols to Joyner--can not be found in the Mitchell Report. The list was eventually yanked from the WNBC web site out of "an abundance of caution," the station reported in an updated story. The station has yet to retract (or apologize for) its original reporting. (1 page)
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Re: wnbc believes list not complete-stands by first list

Postby Ender » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:20 pm

Well MLB did have 3 days to look at the report before it was released, maybe they convinced him that one of his sources wasn't valid. Though he did claim that they did not make any changes.
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