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Postby Scooter1027 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:05 pm

http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2007/12/07/brewers-trade-for-pirates-torres.aspx

Minor move, except when you consider that the Brewers still have a closer opening. So, from a fantasy perspective, this is worth noting.

Obviously Torres was pretty poor last year, but I think injuries played a pretty big part in that. From '04-'06 he was pretty darn good.

I think Pittsburgh sold low here, because the return (Mariano Salas, Kevin Roberts)is a who's-who of middle relief fringe prospects (neither make the brewerfan.net list of top 50 Brewer prospects (http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewPower50.do).

So, a low risk deal for Milwaukee (Torres is signed to a deal through '08 with an '09 club option), and a potential closer option (wouldn't be my first choice, but we'll see).
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Re: Torres to Milwaukee

Postby mak1277 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:05 pm

Bleh.

Honestly though, I don't know what more the Pirates would get for Torres. I mean, he's 100 years old and he was not good last year. He's been worked like a dog over the past 3-4 years too.

They should've called the Reds, I guess...seen if Krivsky would have given up Hamilton for Torres.

I hope they end up getting a better deal when they trade Marte.
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Re: Torres to Milwaukee

Postby Scooter1027 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:22 pm

mak1277 wrote:Bleh.

Honestly though, I don't know what more the Pirates would get for Torres. I mean, he's 100 years old and he was not good last year. He's been worked like a dog over the past 3-4 years too.

They should've called the Reds, I guess...seen if Krivsky would have given up Hamilton for Torres.

I hope they end up getting a better deal when they trade Marte.


You're right, Krivsky might have been the better target. :-D

And you're also correct in stating that they probably wouldn't have gotten much more for him, now anyways. I think they might have been better off hoping he had a nice, bounceback half-season and then pawn him off to a contender at the trade deadline.
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Re: Torres to Milwaukee

Postby Ender » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:24 pm

7.6 k/9 and 2.9 BB/9, 47.8% GBs is not terrible and that is what he put up in 2007. His HR/FB spiked for some reason(elbow problems?) and his LOB% was bad compared to normal. He is probably the Brewers 2nd or 3rd best RP now after Riske and Shouse. He makes a pretty decent sleeper for saves next year I'd imagine.
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Re: Torres to Milwaukee

Postby mak1277 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:25 pm

Scooter1027 wrote:
mak1277 wrote:Bleh.

Honestly though, I don't know what more the Pirates would get for Torres. I mean, he's 100 years old and he was not good last year. He's been worked like a dog over the past 3-4 years too.

They should've called the Reds, I guess...seen if Krivsky would have given up Hamilton for Torres.

I hope they end up getting a better deal when they trade Marte.


You're right, Krivsky might have been the better target. :-D

And you're also correct in stating that they probably wouldn't have gotten much more for him, now anyways. I think they might have been better off hoping he had a nice, bounceback half-season and then pawn him off to a contender at the trade deadline.



Nothing factual to support this, but I think there have been some concerns about Torres since he hurt his arm last year.
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Re: Torres to Milwaukee

Postby CheeseBeger » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:59 pm

The Pirates are dead set on selling low (JBay also?) this off season.

I like the trade for the Brewers, they don't give up much for a possible studly RP.
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Re: Torres to Milwaukee

Postby brewcrew4you » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:52 pm

CheeseBeger wrote:The Pirates are dead set on selling low (JBay also?) this off season.

I like the trade for the Brewers, they don't give up much for a possible studly RP.


I wonder how much JBay is going for, that would have been a great answer to Milwaukee's LF needs.
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Re: Torres to Milwaukee

Postby StarsNPinstripes » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:47 pm

Should've called Ed Wade as well. :-D

As for Torres, I think he's in the mix for now but he seems a better fit as a set up man.Brewers have inquired about some closers(Chad Cordero & Huston Street) but the asking price was too high.Good deal, but I'd thought they'd make a play for guys like Gagne,Dotel or Fuentes.Are any of these guys a possibility?
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Re: Torres to Milwaukee

Postby BigLebowski » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:10 pm

How a team can sell so low is beyond me. Keep him a couple of months into the season and they could easily get twice what they got now. Another example of why the Pirates are the Pirates.

I like Torres next year to vulture some saves, but nothing I would spend much to get. 5 Saves is about where I'd have him projected. He is a workhorse, but the workload is a little scary.
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Re: Torres to Milwaukee

Postby Havok1517 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:31 am

Torres will likely be 4th or more down the closer list for the Brewers.
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