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Re: LaRussa v. Rolen: Round 2

Postby Steve-o » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:34 pm

Cleveland Steamers wrote:La Russa bringing this sort of thing into the public shows how ridiculous the guy is. I totally agree that he has fallen into good teams and random . I live in St. Louis and see way more Cards games than I'd like and can say I can't stand the guy as a person or a manager.


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Re: LaRussa v. Rolen: Round 2

Postby AussieDodger » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:00 pm

Steve-o wrote:
Cleveland Steamers wrote:La Russa bringing this sort of thing into the public shows how ridiculous the guy is. I totally agree that he has fallen into good teams and random . I live in St. Louis and see way more Cards games than I'd like and can say I can't stand the guy as a person or a manager.


Then you should enjoy this.


Don't we all :-D
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Re: LaRussa v. Rolen: Round 2

Postby StlSluggers » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:14 pm

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StlSluggers wrote:Oh yeah... That Preston Wilson team that won the World Series was jam-packed with talent. ;-7


:-D

To clarify, since I'm not sure you got it, Tony is the reason the Cards got that trophy.
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Re: LaRussa v. Rolen: Round 2

Postby AussieDodger » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:18 pm

StlSluggers wrote:
AussieDodger wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:Oh yeah... That Preston Wilson team that won the World Series was jam-packed with talent. ;-7


:-D

To clarify, since I'm not sure you got it, Tony is the reason the Cards got that trophy.


He took the opposition teams on all-night benders?
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Re: LaRussa v. Rolen: Round 2

Postby StlSluggers » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:28 pm

Ah... Good. Now I know I hit a nerve. Your lack of a snide comment to my last post indicated that you didn't completely understand what I was getting at. I'm glad I was able to convey my point this time.

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Re: LaRussa v. Rolen: Round 2

Postby AussieDodger » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:54 pm

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Re: LaRussa v. Rolen: Round 2

Postby StlSluggers » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:09 pm

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Re: LaRussa v. Rolen: Round 2

Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:16 pm

Managers on the whole are overrated IMO. They don't have nearly the impact most people give them credit for. In the time TLR has been in STL I've been impressed with when he decides to steal, hit and run and squeezes. His bullpen management and personnel management have never really impressed me. And I don't agree Tony was the reason they won the WS. The pitching really stepped up bullpen included, Yadi was a machine, and they got a ton of big hits. Tony made a lot of great moves but he had a lot of help.
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Re: LaRussa v. Rolen: Round 2

Postby Yoda » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:01 am

Pogotheostrich wrote:Managers on the whole are overrated IMO. They don't have nearly the impact most people give them credit for. In the time TLR has been in STL I've been impressed with when he decides to steal, hit and run and squeezes. His bullpen management and personnel management have never really impressed me. And I don't agree Tony was the reason they won the WS. The pitching really stepped up bullpen included, Yadi was a machine, and they got a ton of big hits. Tony made a lot of great moves but he had a lot of help.


Agreed. I always say that coaches and managers take way too much credit when the team is successful and way too much blame when the team is horrible.

That being said, the idea that the Cards won by luck and that TLR is completely lucky is beyond ridiculous. People let their personal feelings get in the way of properly judging people too often.
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