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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby Steve-o » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:14 pm

Yoda wrote:
acsguitar wrote:Just a thought:

Could it be he hit so well because pitchers didn't realize he was that good of a hitter? Once he starts playing 1B I'd think he'd see harder to hit pitches.


No he can absolutely rake. Check out his numbers:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... ings.shtml


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.318/.394/.549 (.943 OPS) with 15 HR in 255 ABs as a 21 yo College kid
.355/.470/.717 (1.189 OPS) with 18 HR in 217 AB as a 22 yo collegian
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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby acsguitar » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:15 pm

Yoda wrote:
acsguitar wrote:Just a thought:

Could it be he hit so well because pitchers didn't realize he was that good of a hitter? Once he starts playing 1B I'd think he'd see harder to hit pitches.


No he can absolutely rake. Check out his numbers:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... ings.shtml


121 MLB and Minor League Ab's don't mean much (not saying he's not a good hitter but thats 1/4 of a season total and 1/8th of a season if we just count pro ABs)
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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby acsguitar » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:16 pm

Steve-o wrote:
Yoda wrote:
acsguitar wrote:Just a thought:

Could it be he hit so well because pitchers didn't realize he was that good of a hitter? Once he starts playing 1B I'd think he'd see harder to hit pitches.


No he can absolutely rake. Check out his numbers:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... ings.shtml


For the lazy people:

.318/.394/.549 (.943 OPS) with 15 HR in 255 ABs as a 21 yo College kid
.355/.470/.717 (1.189 OPS) with 18 HR in 217 AB as a 22 yo collegian


Cough Metal Bats Cough College
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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby Yoda » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:24 pm

acsguitar wrote:
Yoda wrote:
acsguitar wrote:Just a thought:

Could it be he hit so well because pitchers didn't realize he was that good of a hitter? Once he starts playing 1B I'd think he'd see harder to hit pitches.


No he can absolutely rake. Check out his numbers:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... ings.shtml


121 MLB and Minor League Ab's don't mean much (not saying he's not a good hitter but thats 1/4 of a season total and 1/8th of a season if we just count pro ABs)


So you don't want to use college numbers nor MiLB nor MLB where he hit very well. What would you suggest we go by? His Little League stats?
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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby Steve-o » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:25 pm

acsguitar wrote:
Steve-o wrote:For the lazy people:

.318/.394/.549 (.943 OPS) with 15 HR in 255 ABs as a 21 yo College kid
.355/.470/.717 (1.189 OPS) with 18 HR in 217 AB as a 22 yo collegian


Cough Metal Bats Cough College


I know, I know. Still, he comps pretty well with Ryan Braun's college numbers:

.364/.435/.665 (1.100 OPS) with 17 HR in 242 ABs as a 19 yo College kid
.335/.439/.606 (1.045 OPS) with 10 HR in 155 AB as a 20 yo collegian
.388/.471/.726 (1.197 OPS) with 18 HR in 219 AB as a 21 yo collegian
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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby BravesGuy » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:26 pm

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Cough Metal Bats Cough College

True. Even Tim Hudson hit pretty well when he was playing at Auburn.
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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby hybrid » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:31 pm

Steve-o wrote:
acsguitar wrote:
Steve-o wrote:For the lazy people:

.318/.394/.549 (.943 OPS) with 15 HR in 255 ABs as a 21 yo College kid
.355/.470/.717 (1.189 OPS) with 18 HR in 217 AB as a 22 yo collegian


Cough Metal Bats Cough College


I know, I know. Still, he comps pretty well with Ryan Braun's college numbers:

.364/.435/.665 (1.100 OPS) with 17 HR in 242 ABs as a 19 yo College kid
.335/.439/.606 (1.045 OPS) with 10 HR in 155 AB as a 20 yo collegian
.388/.471/.726 (1.197 OPS) with 18 HR in 219 AB as a 21 yo collegian


Owings first year was pretty average, his best year came in Conference USA ... not exactly a powerhouse conference. The Big East where Braun played, by comparison is quite a bit better. You can't just compare numbers like nothing else matters, especially in college. For example Rickie Weeks hit .500/.619/.987 in his last year in college, then again he played at Southern so it needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby Snakes Gould » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:37 pm

well we all know if he played for colorado he could jack out at least 30 ;-7
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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby Steve-o » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:40 pm

hybrid wrote:Owings first year was pretty average, his best year came in Conference USA ... not exactly a powerhouse conference. The Big East where Braun played, by comparison is quite a bit better. You can't just compare numbers like nothing else matters, especially in college. For example Rickie Weeks hit .500/.619/.987 in his last year in college, then again he played at Southern so it needs to be taken with a grain of salt.


Yeah. I probably shouldn't have done that. While I know a little about the minors and park/league effects, I admit I know absolutely nothing about college park/league effects. (effect or affect? I looked it up and I still can't figure it out. Whatever.)
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Re: Micah Owings, 1B?!

Postby acsguitar » Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:45 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:well we all know if he played for colorado he could jack out at least 30 ;-7

:)

its true...

I'm saying "look at his stats" but don't "bet on his stats"
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