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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby Field » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:56 pm

Yoda wrote:I think he is a breakout candidate. He's capable of 20+ bombs easily with a good AVG.


He's probably the only obvious breakout canidate at the position. Taking a quick look, there really isn't anyone else who seems primed for such a season, meaning he will probably go for a premium on draft day. I'm not expecting a monster season by any means, but I think he'll still out-performs his draft position. He could very well be around the 50th ranked player at the end of the 08 season while I expect his ADP to be around 90-120.
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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby wkelly91 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:12 pm

He was not drafted in 4 of 5 mocks, and 17th round-196 in the last. :-?
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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby Yoda » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:23 pm

wkelly91 wrote:He was not drafted in 4 of 5 mocks, and 17th round-196 in the last. :-?


He's the type of guy you want to take a shot at late in the draft. Highly praised former prospect with obvious talent coming off a down year.
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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby Niffoc4 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:57 pm

I'm staying away, his numbers were horrible last year, in a pitcher's park, and I haven't heard a good reason... was there a wrist injury last year?
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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby Yoda » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:32 am

Niffoc4 wrote:I'm staying away, his numbers were horrible last year, in a pitcher's park, and I haven't heard a good reason... was there a wrist injury last year?


It was his rookie season so keep that in mind. A lot of first year players don't perform but that doesn't mean they can't improve. His MiLB numbers show that he is capable of becoming a star player.

How do you figure AZ is a pitcher's park. Please explain.
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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby Niffoc4 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:44 am

Yoda wrote:
Niffoc4 wrote:I'm staying away, his numbers were horrible last year, in a pitcher's park, and I haven't heard a good reason... was there a wrist injury last year?


It was his rookie season so keep that in mind. A lot of first year players don't perform but that doesn't mean they can't improve. His MiLB numbers show that he is capable of becoming a star player.

How do you figure AZ is a pitcher's park. Please explain.
sorry... doing two things at once... I meant hitter's park, and that's what he's had throughout his minor-league career. It's not unheard of for ARZ prospects to burn out in the majors...
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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby Yoda » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:12 am

Niffoc4 wrote:
Yoda wrote:
Niffoc4 wrote:I'm staying away, his numbers were horrible last year, in a pitcher's park, and I haven't heard a good reason... was there a wrist injury last year?


It was his rookie season so keep that in mind. A lot of first year players don't perform but that doesn't mean they can't improve. His MiLB numbers show that he is capable of becoming a star player.

How do you figure AZ is a pitcher's park. Please explain.
sorry... doing two things at once... I meant hitter's park, and that's what he's had throughout his minor-league career. It's not unheard of for ARZ prospects to burn out in the majors...


What other hitting prospect burned out? You need to be more clear.
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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby Niffoc4 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:41 am

Scott Hairston for one, though that's not completely his fault, and it's not over yet.
Conor Jackson hasn't developed the power people expected, though he is a decent regular
Josh Kroeger
Sergio Santos
Luis Terrero
Alex Cintron

I could be off on this (and I still get drawn in by guys like Drew and Quentin), but I feel like with the collection of hitters parks that Arizona has it leads to overrating of their prospects... I feel like I am missing another big 2B prospect that fell short for them, but I can't think of it right now.
That's not to say that I am not a Chris Young fan, or that I wouldn't take Justin Upton, its just something to be aware of with Arizona prospects (something similar happens with Anaheim prospects as well IIRC).
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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby kellythemick » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:11 am

Yoda wrote:It was his rookie season so keep that in mind. A lot of first year players don't perform but that doesn't mean they can't improve. His MiLB numbers show that he is capable of becoming a star player.


More like a soph slump after 209 AB's the year before with decent avg. and OBP.
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Re: Stephen Drew

Postby Yoda » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:35 am

Niffoc4 wrote:Scott Hairston for one, though that's not completely his fault, and it's not over yet.
Conor Jackson hasn't developed the power people expected, though he is a decent regular
Josh Kroeger
Sergio Santos
Luis Terrero
Alex Cintron

I could be off on this (and I still get drawn in by guys like Drew and Quentin), but I feel like with the collection of hitters parks that Arizona has it leads to overrating of their prospects... I feel like I am missing another big 2B prospect that fell short for them, but I can't think of it right now.
That's not to say that I am not a Chris Young fan, or that I wouldn't take Justin Upton, its just something to be aware of with Arizona prospects (something similar happens with Anaheim prospects as well IIRC).


I don't really think you are being fair. Quentin was hurt, too early to write off Drew based on his first full season, Young was great, Upton held his own as a 19 yo, Jackson is decent and Reynolds was better than expected. In any case, Drew plays in a decent lineup and a great ballpark. He is power hitting SS who you can pick up late in the draft. He won't cost you much and the potential reward is pretty high.
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