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Postby rookies and cream » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:49 pm

Traded Kris Benson to the Baltimore Orioles. Received Jorge Julio and John Maine = GOOD (great actually)

Traded Jorge Julio to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Received Orlando Hernandez = GOOD

Traded Kazuo Matsui and cash to the Colorado Rockies. Received Eli Marrero = BAD, though understandable

Traded Jeff Keppinger to the Kansas City Royals. Received Ruben Gotay. = NEUTRAL

Traded Xavier Nady to the Pittsburgh Pirates. Received Roberto Hernandez and Oliver Perez = GOOD

Traded Evan MacLane to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Received Shawn Green and cash. = GOOD

Traded Victor Diaz to the Texas Rangers. Received Mike Nickeas = BAD, though in hindsight, ok

Traded Heath Bell and Royce Ring to the San Diego Padres. Received Jon Adkins and Ben Johnson. = BAD

Traded Henry Owens and Matt Lindstrom to the Florida Marlins. Received Jason Vargas and Adam Bostick = BAD

Traded Brian Bannister to the Kansas City Royals. Received Ambiorix Burgos. = BAD

Traded Drew Butera and Dustin Martin to the Minnesota Twins. Received Luis Castillo. = GOOD

Traded Jose Castro and Sean Henry to the Cincinnati Reds. Received Jeff Conine. = WHO CARES

Traded Lastings Milledge to Washington Nationals. Received Ryan Church and Brian Schneider = BAD

In the end - 5 good, 6 bad

Only 1 of last 7 trades = Good
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Re: Still think Minaya is a good GM?

Postby StarsNPinstripes » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:01 pm

I think the Owens/Lindstrom trade was terrible considering how useful these guys could've been in the Mets bullpen.Minaya compounds the mistake by trading Brian Bannister for Ambiorix Burgos two weeks later.Now this Milledge trade.Everyone that follows baseball is aware of Billy Beane's mancrush on Milledge so you gotta believe the Mets could've gotten a better deal,not saying Haren, but better than what they got today.Other fans are more qualified than me to say if Omar is good or bad but we can all agree he's in a slump.
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Re: Still think Minaya is a good GM?

Postby jfg » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:20 pm

rookies and cream wrote:Traded Drew Butera and Dustin Martin to the Minnesota Twins. Received Luis Castillo. = GOOD

Traded Lastings Milledge to Washington Nationals. Received Ryan Church and Brian Schneider = BAD




You can't make a call on either of these ones yet. The only trade that has been terrible is Kazmir. Every GM has their good and bad trades but most of them probably wouldn't make a difference in contending for a title.
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Re: Still think Minaya is a good GM?

Postby Bloody Sox » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:21 pm

StarsNPinstripes wrote:I think the Owens/Lindstrom trade was terrible considering how useful these guys could've been in the Mets bullpen.Minaya compounds the mistake by trading Brian Bannister for Ambiorix Burgos two weeks later.Now this Milledge trade.Everyone that follows baseball is aware of Billy Beane's mancrush on Milledge so you gotta believe the Mets could've gotten a better deal,not saying Haren, but better than what they got today.Other fans are more qualified than me to say if Omar is good or bad but we can all agree he's in a slump.

Yeah, the Mets couldn't have gone for Blanton using Milledge? They need starting pitching more than anything.
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Re: Still think Minaya is a good GM?

Postby deerayfan072 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:38 pm

jfg wrote:
rookies and cream wrote:Traded Drew Butera and Dustin Martin to the Minnesota Twins. Received Luis Castillo. = GOOD

Traded Lastings Milledge to Washington Nationals. Received Ryan Church and Brian Schneider = BAD




You can't make a call on either of these ones yet. The only trade that has been terrible is Kazmir. Every GM has their good and bad trades but most of them probably wouldn't make a difference in contending for a title.


Minaya did not make the Kaz trade
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Re: Still think Minaya is a good GM?

Postby StarsNPinstripes » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:50 pm

deerayfan072 wrote:
jfg wrote:
rookies and cream wrote:Traded Drew Butera and Dustin Martin to the Minnesota Twins. Received Luis Castillo. = GOOD

Traded Lastings Milledge to Washington Nationals. Received Ryan Church and Brian Schneider = BAD




You can't make a call on either of these ones yet. The only trade that has been terrible is Kazmir. Every GM has their good and bad trades but most of them probably wouldn't make a difference in contending for a title.


Minaya did not make the Kaz trade


Jim Duquette made the Kaz trade.
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Re: Still think Minaya is a good GM?

Postby jfg » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:20 pm

Oh yeah. Well, then Minaya's never made a terrible trade IMO.
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Re: Still think Minaya is a good GM?

Postby eftda » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:44 pm

Hes signed alot of great players. Wagner, Beltran, Martinez, Delgado... etc... His background (from what hes said on espn) helped him out with such signings. I doubt the mets would have gotten all four of those names without him.
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Re: Still think Minaya is a good GM?

Postby rookies and cream » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:20 am

Strange that there are so many Minaya supporters posting and none are Met's fans.

As one poster commented, Minaya is currently in slump. Met's bullpen is awful and they've traded away at least four serviceable options, including one of the top relievers last year in Heath Bell.

BTW - Matsui was traded away in June 2006. Minaya was hired at the end of 2004. I don't fault anyone for this trade, as at the time I thought it was necessary.
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Re: Still think Minaya is a good GM?

Postby Diamond Miners » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:29 am

rookies and cream wrote:Traded Lastings Milledge to Washington Nationals. Received Ryan Church and Brian Schneider = BAD


only if you believe all hype for Milledge. I for one, did not. I think this could be a great deal for the Mets. Sure they didn't need another catcher. But I know a team that does. Maybe Estrada gets dealt elsewhere in another package deal, though not sure who they would give up. And some believed Church to be the future of the Nationals...wasn't quite going to happen, but some thought he was on par (as far as prospects go) with Milledge. And sometimes it just takes a player getting to a new location or different park to play to their potential.
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