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Re: Bugssssssss

Postby acsguitar » Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:37 pm

The Cow wrote: Anyways Paul Byrd ends it tonight, Goodbye Bankmees.


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Bwahahah Paul Byrd is gonna get lit up...he's terrible.

The mistake by the lake part two.

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Re: Bugssssssss

Postby TDS-MN » Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:01 pm

It didn't seem to me that Chamberlain was making that much fuss about them while he was on the mound. Not like jeter and a-rod, who were swinging like sissies at the swarm.

But it was obvious that the bugs were a distraction. Look at how Joba worked thru the previous inning, and then next inning he's covered w/ bugs and struggled to find the plate. I can't fault him for that, it would have been difficult to focus, I'm sure.

It was quite a sight. Never noticed that in a game before.
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Re: Bugssssssss

Postby JustAnotherYanksFan » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:23 pm

If it's true that there are often bugs in Cleveland, then that explains why Carmona didn't seem to be affected like Joba was. Of course, there's also the fact that Joba's a rookie with 24 innings of Major League experience under his belt. He came into a postseason game in a short series in which his team already trailed by one game, with his team leading by only one run.

To come into that situation as a rookie is enough pressure by itself. It's easy to see how the additional (and probably unexpected) presence of swarms of bugs in the stadium might have pushed him over the top and caused him to get a bit wild.
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Re: Bugssssssss

Postby The Cow » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:44 pm

JustAnotherYanksFan wrote:If it's true that there are often bugs in Cleveland, then that explains why Carmona didn't seem to be affected like Joba was. Of course, there's also the fact that Joba's a rookie with 24 innings of Major League experience under his belt. He came into a postseason game in a short series in which his team already trailed by one game, with his team leading by only one run.

To come into that situation as a rookie is enough pressure by itself. It's easy to see how the additional (and probably unexpected) presence of swarms of bugs in the stadium might have pushed him over the top and caused him to get a bit wild.


Yank fan making excuses. Perez a rookie didn't fold under pressure for the Tribe and that goes for tonight in New York as well. BYE BYE BANKMEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Bugssssssss

Postby JustAnotherYanksFan » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:39 am

The Cow wrote:
JustAnotherYanksFan wrote:If it's true that there are often bugs in Cleveland, then that explains why Carmona didn't seem to be affected like Joba was. Of course, there's also the fact that Joba's a rookie with 24 innings of Major League experience under his belt. He came into a postseason game in a short series in which his team already trailed by one game, with his team leading by only one run.

To come into that situation as a rookie is enough pressure by itself. It's easy to see how the additional (and probably unexpected) presence of swarms of bugs in the stadium might have pushed him over the top and caused him to get a bit wild.


Yank fan making excuses. Perez a rookie didn't fold under pressure for the Tribe and that goes for tonight in New York as well. BYE BYE BANKMEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I wasn't trying to make excuses at all. Joba was brought in with the expectation that he not allow any runs, and he failed to do his job. It's not a situation where bad luck (e.g. bloop hits) or poor defense can be blamed - it was clearly Joba who messed up. I'm just trying to look into some of the reasons why he failed to do his job. There's a difference between making excuses for a player and trying to figure out some of the reasons why he messed up.

(And for what it's worth, Perez wasn't in the same situation, since he was presumably more used to the presence of bugs.)

Ultimately, it wasn't pitching that lost the Yanks this series anyway. They averaged 3 runs a game - pretty terrible, especially for an offense that led the Majors in runs scored.

Anyway, congrats on the win. ;-D Good luck to the Indians in the rest of the playoffs (and particularly in the ALCS }:-) ...)
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