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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby Yoda » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:29 pm

A lot of Liriano owners drank too much Kool Aid and are now running for the hills. My advice is to cut bait especially if you are in a redraft standard/shallow league. He's had enough time to recover and he is either missing the plate by a foot or throwing it straight down the middle. He wasn't sharp at AAA and there is a chance that he turns it around later in the year but do you really want to carry him all season hoping that he somehow pulls off a miracle?

He is still an injury risk. He is relearning how to pitch. Trust me, you don't want Liriano this year and the reality might be hard for some owners to accept since you invested so much in him but you are better off replacing him with a pitcher who is not as sexy but posting respectable numbers.
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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby Matthias » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:15 pm

Len3, the Twins beat writer, thinks that Liriano is getting sent down: http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/neal/2 ... been-made/
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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby jfg » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:08 pm

It looks like that might be the case, but I'd definitely keep him stashed on the bench. He'll be back up once the control problems are worked out. They just didn't have enough faith in their minor league system that keeps producing young arms to help him and that was a mistake.
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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby Secret Avatar » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:12 pm

I would hang onto Liriano for a little while longer. If you've come this far and swallowed his ghastly numbers so far, why not wait another few weeks to see what happens?

My own view -- and I've been saying this for months -- is that it is totally unrealistic to expect Liriano to show 2006 form any time soon. If you drafted him with a long-term perspective, then he might pay out for you. But it's an investment and there's risk (a lot of risk).

But whatever you do, you DON'T want think Liriano's any kind of money in the bank and let his 2006 dominance distract you from jumping on some young prospects that are right here and now. Guys like Cueto and Voltron are probably long gone. But keep an eye out for other less-hyped guys like Jon Sanchez (another K/9 machine with control issues) and of course mid-season call-ups like Kershaw. Maybe it's even Homer Bailey's time to shine.
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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby Yoda » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:08 pm

Is he eligible to pitch in the AAA all star game?
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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby Matthias » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:44 pm

Liriano was officially sent down today
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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby Zhangman1 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:53 am

he had some solid outings in SP, bad in the minors, awful when he got called up. I'll wait another 2 weeks or so and see how he does in the minors. If he keep struggling with his command down there then he's gone.
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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby jdsun1 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:27 pm

Yoda wrote:A lot of Liriano owners drank too much Kool Aid and are now running for the hills. My advice is to cut bait especially if you are in a redraft standard/shallow league. He's had enough time to recover and he is either missing the plate by a foot or throwing it straight down the middle. He wasn't sharp at AAA and there is a chance that he turns it around later in the year but do you really want to carry him all season hoping that he somehow pulls off a miracle?

He is still an injury risk. He is relearning how to pitch. Trust me, you don't want Liriano this year and the reality might be hard for some owners to accept since you invested so much in him but you are better off replacing him with a pitcher who is not as sexy but posting respectable numbers.


I blame the so-called experts for hyping him as the best sleeper this year.
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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby Inukchuk » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:34 pm

jdsun1 wrote:
I blame the so-called experts for hyping him as the best sleeper this year.


Right. Because the experts are the ones doing your drafts for you... :-?
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Re: Francisco Liriano

Postby Matthias » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:13 pm

Inukchuk wrote:
jdsun1 wrote:I blame the so-called experts for hyping him as the best sleeper this year.

Right. Because the experts are the ones doing your drafts for you... :-?

Only when it doesn't work out. When they turn out great, then it was his awesome foresight and risk-taking.
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