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Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby deutschland » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:27 am

I have enjoyed a comfortable lead down the stretch in my 12 team mixed roto $$$ league . The current 2nd place team is way way behind in games started (limit of 180, ESPN league). I am approaching the starts limit, but not there yet. The 2nd place team has been starting about 7 pitchers per day in order to make up ground in categories like wins and K's and will presumably continue do so for the final week of the season to make a run at me. Noticing this, and having calculated his possible improvement in the standings, I have been picking up certain projected starters for the next day's games in order to prevent him from benefitting from their performances, because I think there is a chance he can catch me and win the league. For the most part, I have not been activating those starters that I have picked up, dropping them the next day and picking up new ones. I do not want to cheat to win my league. ESPN's rules do not appear to touch on this issue. Is this unethical? Is it illegal?
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Re: Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby Whisp » Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:22 am

if your league rules are the same as most people, i'd say definitely not unethical. it's a strategy to win that doesn't require anything against the rules. if you refrain from doing this, you are less of an owner in my book.
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Re: Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby StlSluggers » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:15 am

Having problems with the board today, deutsh? :-D

I think the common rule here is this: If it's not against the rules and it gives you an edge, then it's legal - and expected.

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Re: Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby noseeum » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:52 am

Yeah, it's an obvious counter to an opponent's strategy. It's legal too. It's actually a MUST! Keep picking those guys up.
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Re: Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby J35J » Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:00 pm

While its not against the rules.... I think it is bush league, IMHO. I'd probably resort to doing it if I had a good amount of money on the line though. !+)

I just think it is a little cheap and lame...thats just me though.
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Re: Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby Tavish » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:13 pm

Its fairly blatant cheating. From the ESPN fantasy baseball rules:

C: Impeding other owners

Certain transactions made solely to impede other owners are not allowed. In particular, cycling through players in free agency to put them on waivers and make them unavailable to other teams in your league is strictly prohibited and is grounds for expulsion from the game. Please see the waivers and free agency section of the rules for more information.



Yahoo has a similar sportsmanship clause.
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Re: Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby J35J » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:20 pm

Tavish wrote:Its fairly blatant cheating. From the ESPN fantasy baseball rules:

C: Impeding other owners

Certain transactions made solely to impede other owners are not allowed. In particular, cycling through players in free agency to put them on waivers and make them unavailable to other teams in your league is strictly prohibited and is grounds for expulsion from the game. Please see the waivers and free agency section of the rules for more information.



Yahoo has a similar sportsmanship clause.


I'm glad to see that rule in place.....also glad to see that I wasn't the only one who didn't like that "strategy". ;-D
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Re: Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby kellythemick » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:21 pm

Tavish wrote:Its fairly blatant cheating. From the ESPN fantasy baseball rules:

C: Impeding other owners

Certain transactions made solely to impede other owners are not allowed. In particular, cycling through players in free agency to put them on waivers and make them unavailable to other teams in your league is strictly prohibited and is grounds for expulsion from the game. Please see the waivers and free agency section of the rules for more information.



Yahoo has a similar sportsmanship clause.

Way to read the rules! I was going to say I see no problem with it but obviously it is clearly a violation. One reason I prefer keeper leagues is the avoidance of these issues.
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Re: Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby Snakes Gould » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:25 pm

Tavish wrote:Its fairly blatant cheating. From the ESPN fantasy baseball rules:

C: Impeding other owners

Certain transactions made solely to impede other owners are not allowed. In particular, cycling through players in free agency to put them on waivers and make them unavailable to other teams in your league is strictly prohibited and is grounds for expulsion from the game. Please see the waivers and free agency section of the rules for more information.



Yahoo has a similar sportsmanship clause.


yeah i was going to mention the same rule (not espn, yahoo tho) but i think its one of the rules that is constantly broken. i mean, if you know someone in your league is talking trade with another owner and you 1 up him and get the deal done, arent you impeding him? how about picking a player that they were going to pick up or picking up their closer's new replacement? arent you impeding them in that way too. i think the fact that espn specifically mentions no cycling if you dont use them though sorta makes it against the rules but i know alot of leagues dont pay attention to them.
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Re: Is blocking SPs unethical/illegal in roto?

Postby J35J » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:30 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:yeah i was going to mention the same rule (not espn, yahoo tho) but i think its one of the rules that is constantly broken. i mean, if you know someone in your league is talking trade with another owner and you 1 up him and get the deal done, arent you impeding him? how about picking a player that they were going to pick up or picking up their closer's new replacement? arent you impeding them in that way too. i think the fact that espn specifically mentions no cycling if you dont use them though sorta makes it against the rules but i know alot of leagues dont pay attention to them.


Yeah, its one of those rules where there is nothing out there that will prevent you from doing it unless someone emails ESPN/YAHOO and lets them know....which usually doesn't happen.

It's bush either way...I would feel "dirty" if I had to do that to win. With that said, I'll never have to worry about it because I won't play in a league unless there is a max moves limit to begin with.
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