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SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby JRM4833 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:06 pm

Just curious where everyone ranks Jeter and Ramirez going into next year. Are Ramirez's number again going to be this much better than Jeter's? Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:14 pm

Hanley has got to be either 1 or 2 (most likely will be 2 behind Reyes, but I'm not convinced I would take Reyes in front of him). As far as Jeter goes, I'm not really sure where he's going to be drafted, however I do know that I'll probably stay away from him for the most part since every year he goes before I would draft him.
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Re: SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby bleach168 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:25 pm

1. Reyes
2. Ramirez
3. Rollins
4. Jeter
5. Guillen

6-12 Furcal, Cabrera, Tejada, Young, Renteria, Tulowitzki, Lugo (take your pick, anyone of them can finish top 100)

SS is one of the deepest positions.
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Re: SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby davidmarver » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:04 pm

I think Hanley's the #1 SS going into '08. He's more complete than Reyes, who actually hurts you in a standard 12 team 5x5 in 3 of the 5 categories.
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Re: SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby pokerplaya » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:15 pm

davidmarver wrote:I think Hanley's the #1 SS going into '08. He's more complete than Reyes, who actually hurts you in a standard 12 team 5x5 in 3 of the 5 categories.


Which 3? I assume you are implying his .290 average hurt you. Gimme a break.
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Re: SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby rookies and cream » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:15 pm

Take a look at the Tulo thread (below in this forum). Many different shortstop threads can be found there. Personally, I'd rank them.

1) Hanley
2) Reyes
3) Rollins
4) Jeter
5) Guillen
6) Tulo
7) Tejada
8) Young
9) Furcal
10) Renteria
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Re: SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby davidmarver » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:26 pm

pokerplaya wrote:
davidmarver wrote:I think Hanley's the #1 SS going into '08. He's more complete than Reyes, who actually hurts you in a standard 12 team 5x5 in 3 of the 5 categories.


Which 3? I assume you are implying his .290 average hurt you. Gimme a break.

All I'm saying is that according to rototimes.com player rater, in a 12 team league that starts 9 position players and 6 pitchers, his .289 is below average, meaning he gets negative points for it.

I'm really not sure how Reyes can be rated above Hanley. The past two seasons Hanley has outperformed him, not to mention he's younger (albeit barely). Also, Reyes' power numbers took a step backwards this season.

Past two seasons combined:
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       .AVG HR RBI R   SB
Hanley .311 45 133 235 101
Reyes  .294 29 131 234 142
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Re: SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby Scout » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:32 pm

davidmarver wrote:
pokerplaya wrote:
davidmarver wrote:I think Hanley's the #1 SS going into '08. He's more complete than Reyes, who actually hurts you in a standard 12 team 5x5 in 3 of the 5 categories.


Which 3? I assume you are implying his .290 average hurt you. Gimme a break.

All I'm saying is that according to rototimes.com player rater, in a 12 team league that starts 9 position players and 6 pitchers, his .289 is below average, meaning he gets negative points for it.

I'm really not sure how Reyes can be rated above Hanley. The past two seasons Hanley has outperformed him, not to mention he's younger (albeit barely). Also, Reyes' power numbers took a step backwards this season.

Past two seasons combined:
Code: Select all
       .AVG HR RBI R   SB
Hanley .311 45 133 235 101
Reyes  .294 29 131 234 142


I would take Hanley over Reyes, but I would take 20 steals over 8 home runs and .017 of batting average for a given fantasy year.
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Re: SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby RynMan » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:36 pm

davidmarver wrote:I think Hanley's the #1 SS going into '08. He's more complete than Reyes, who actually hurts you in a standard 12 team 5x5 in 3 of the 5 categories.


I think I'll get called crazy for liking Rollins better than both. However I feel my reasoning is fair enough, even if most disagree.

I don't like Reyes so highly as it's a large investment in a guy who can make or break your steals category.

Hanley hits in a tough ballpark and would just like to see him do it for one more year before I spend a first round pick on him.

Rollins is a great speed/power combo, very consistent, plays in a great park and hits in front of a great middle of the lineup.

I doubt anyone agrees, but that's ok.
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Re: SS Rankings for 2008?

Postby colt4523 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:23 pm

I actually have Rollins #1. Next to ARod in my points league, he has the most points. His power numbers are awesome. He will also give you 30-40 sbs.
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