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Re: Winning a batting title with Less Ab's Your Thoughts

Postby acsguitar » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:41 pm

davidmarver wrote:ACS, how about, after adjusting for pitchers faced, you adjust for the stadium as well? This season, for every one hit in a nuetral stadium, a hitter in Coors Field gets 1.122 hits due to park factors, while a hitter in Turner Field gets 0.905 hits.

So in other words, Holliday has 12.6 extra hits this season because of Coors Field. His nuetral home batting average -- if Coors Field was nuetral -- would be .334 instead of .374. This would make his total batting average .319.

Chipper, on the other hand, has 7.98 less hits this season because of Turner Field. His nuetral home batting average would be .356 instead of .322. This would make his total batting average .359.


You still haven't adjusted for pitchers faced. And you really can't...All I'm trying to say is that basically everyone is even here.

If you are gonna discount for Coors discount for chipper getting to face the nationals and marlins a ton each year.

150 ab's by the way is a quarter of the season which is a lot
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Re: Winning a batting title with Less Ab's Your Thoughts

Postby davidmarver » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:44 pm

acsguitar wrote:
davidmarver wrote:ACS, how about, after adjusting for pitchers faced, you adjust for the stadium as well? This season, for every one hit in a nuetral stadium, a hitter in Coors Field gets 1.122 hits due to park factors, while a hitter in Turner Field gets 0.905 hits.

So in other words, Holliday has 12.6 extra hits this season because of Coors Field. His nuetral home batting average -- if Coors Field was nuetral -- would be .334 instead of .374. This would make his total batting average .319.

Chipper, on the other hand, has 7.98 less hits this season because of Turner Field. His nuetral home batting average would be .356 instead of .322. This would make his total batting average .359.


You still haven't adjusted for pitchers faced. And you really can't...All I'm trying to say is that basically everyone is even here.

If you are gonna discount for Coors discount for chipper getting to face the nationals and marlins a ton each year.

150 ab's by the way is a quarter of the season which is a lot

True, but Holliday's pitcher's faced average against is .250. Chipper's, at the very highest, wouldn't be above .255, meaning a pretty small difference compared to the park effects.
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Re: Winning a batting title with Less Ab's Your Thoughts

Postby Tavish » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:10 pm

Just for fun Acs, I saw your new sig and thought it would be worth looking into. Here are the pitchers you listed and the rest of the pitchers in the top 10 in ERA along with the PAs against those pitchers. Holliday/Rollins/Wright

*Peavy 6/4/6
*Webb 17/0/3
Lowe 6/3/2
Lincecum 5/7/3
Hoffman 2/1/2
Saito 3/1/1
*Young 10/3/3
*Cain 14/3/7
Billingsley 10/6/0
*Smoltz 7/3/19
*Oswalt 8/8/3
*Perez 0/9/0
*Hudson 0/14/12
*Hamels 0/0/9
*Wainwright 0/11/0

*Pitchers in the top 10 in ERA. Total PAs against top 10 pitchers = Holliday 62/ Rollins 55/ Wright 62
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Re: Winning a batting title with Less Ab's Your Thoughts

Postby Snakes Gould » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:13 pm

Tavish wrote:Just for fun Acs, I saw your new sig and thought it would be worth looking into. Here are the pitchers you listed and the rest of the pitchers in the top 10 in ERA along with the PAs against those pitchers. Holliday/Rollins/Wright

*Peavy 6/4/6
*Webb 17/0/3
Lowe 6/3/2
Lincecum 5/7/3
Hoffman 2/1/2
Saito 3/1/1
*Young 10/3/3
*Cain 14/3/7
Billingsley 10/6/0
*Smoltz 7/3/19
*Oswalt 8/8/3
*Perez 0/9/0
*Hudson 0/14/12
*Hamels 0/0/9
*Wainwright 0/11/0

*Pitchers in the top 10 in ERA. Total PAs against top 10 pitchers = Holliday 62/ Rollins 55/ Wright 62


well that pretty much shuts down your argument, doesnt it?
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Re: Winning a batting title with Less Ab's Your Thoughts

Postby J35J » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:24 pm

Tavish wrote:Just for fun Acs, I saw your new sig and thought it would be worth looking into. Here are the pitchers you listed and the rest of the pitchers in the top 10 in ERA along with the PAs against those pitchers. Holliday/Rollins/Wright

*Peavy 6/4/6
*Webb 17/0/3
Lowe 6/3/2
Lincecum 5/7/3
Hoffman 2/1/2
Saito 3/1/1
*Young 10/3/3
*Cain 14/3/7
Billingsley 10/6/0
*Smoltz 7/3/19
*Oswalt 8/8/3
*Perez 0/9/0
*Hudson 0/14/12
*Hamels 0/0/9
*Wainwright 0/11/0

*Pitchers in the top 10 in ERA. Total PAs against top 10 pitchers = Holliday 62/ Rollins 55/ Wright 62


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Re: Winning a batting title with Less Ab's Your Thoughts

Postby StlSluggers » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:31 pm

Waaa poor acs waaaa
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Re: Winning a batting title with Less Ab's Your Thoughts

Postby dipset » Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:22 pm

I dont get it...... if those guys had more at bats, wouldnt that mean just more chances for them to get hits and raise there average? You should be happy that they dont have more at bats than there averages would probably be higher. You cant always assume that they are going to slump becuase they may hit a hot streak :-D
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