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Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby Legia13 » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:34 pm

Where do you guys see him ranking among the SS in 2008. He started off relatively slow even though everyone had high expectations. But man, has he been on a tear in the 2nd half. He's hit lights out when in the 2 hole...but does he deserve to be ranked among the top SS for next year.

As of now I see it like this:

Reyes/Hanley
Rollins
Jeter
Tejada
Tulo
Guillen
OCab
Hardy

It's hard. I was considering putting him above Tejada, but I'm just not sure.
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Re: Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby rookies and cream » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:39 pm

I think I still like Guillen over Tulo. Plus, you also forgot Michael Young who I also think will be drafted before Tulo. By season's end, Young will have his 200 hits (again) and be batting .320.

But Tulo will probably be drafted in top 10 rounds (7-9?).

Edit: After looking at Young's numbers and seeing that he only has 8 HR's this year, I'd probably take Tulo>Young. But I still think Young may be drafted first by the masses.
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Re: Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby BigZ38 » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:55 pm

I have Tulo for 2 bucks in a keeper league, and I'm starting to feel like that is a slam dunk.
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Re: Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby Grounded Polo » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:24 pm

Tulo should outperform Jeter and have comparable numbers to Guillen. Guillen has a very good chance at another 20/100 season while hitting for a higher average because he'll be a shortstop eligible player who is actually playing first base, taking tons of pressure off of his knees and allowing him to reproduce his numbers from this season. If he actually stayed at shortstop, which I can't imagine happening, then Tulo will definitely outperform Guillen.
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Re: Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby rjforlife » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:47 am

I don't know about Guillen. He has been hitting worse every month since June, and as a guy where the 320+ avg carries a lot of his value this trend has me thinking Tulo>Guillen.

June .338
July .284
August .274
Sept .205 with 0 HR, 2 Runs, 4 RBI, 0 SB. Thats in 13 games.


Hasn't homered since August 27th. Hasn't even attempted to steal a base since August 22. 32 years old with an injury history and declining numbers? Give me Tulo all day.
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Re: Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby Oatsdad » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:44 am

I like Tulo more than Tejada - Miggy's on the slide, and Tulo's on the rise...
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Re: Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby RyanK » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:49 pm

i wish i didnt trade him for stephen drew


Tulo should be a solid SS for years to come
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Re: Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby dissent » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:56 pm

Oatsdad wrote:I like Tulo more than Tejada - Miggy's on the slide, and Tulo's on the rise...

Definitely. I own both in one league and Tejada usually rides my bench, depending on the matchup.
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Re: Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby Grounded Polo » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:11 pm

rjforlife wrote:I don't know about Guillen. He has been hitting worse every month since June, and as a guy where the 320+ avg carries a lot of his value this trend has me thinking Tulo>Guillen.

June .338
July .284
August .274
Sept .205 with 0 HR, 2 Runs, 4 RBI, 0 SB. Thats in 13 games.


Hasn't homered since August 27th. Hasn't even attempted to steal a base since August 22. 32 years old with an injury history and declining numbers? Give me Tulo all day.


Guillen's wearing down right now because he's still playing alot of shortstop on his bad knees. I think it's reasonable to assume that playing shortstop, the most physically exhausting position, all season until recently wore him down and affected his offensive output down the stretch. Guillen has a great chance at reproducing this season's numbers because a formerly full time shortstop becoming a full time first baseman is like a becoming a full time DH for anyone else, look at Nomar in 2006 when he played 1b full time. Besides, his move to first base in 2008 should also lift alot of stress because he won't be a butcher on the field anymore.
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Re: Tulo's rank among SS in 08

Postby rjforlife » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:26 pm

Grounded Polo wrote: Guillen has a great chance at reproducing this season's numbers



2007:


Guillen: 19 HR 94 RBI 11 SB 75 Runs .295 avg. 509 AB
2H: 5 HR 27 RBI 4 SB 24 Runs .257 avg. 226 AB


Tulo: 21 HR 86 RBI 7 SB 88 Runs .295 avg 539 AB
2H: 12 HR 48 RBI 2 SB 38 Runs .308 avg 224 AB


You have to admit those are some pretty shocking splits for Guillen. He has been horrible the second half. I don't believe that switching positions, which you ASSUME he will do, will keep him from this horrible slide again. Tulo has been improving all season and with the learning curve that high, big things are coming. Overall, the numbers are very similar and even IF Guillen repeats, I would be fairly surprised if Tulo didnt at least improve somewhat on his numbers, if not much better based on his age/splits.
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