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Postby LBJackal » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:00 pm

1B is probably deeper than 3B.

Pujols
Helton
Delgado
Thome
Sexson
Lee
Giambi
Huff
Bagwell
Nevin
Teixera
Sweeney
Thomas

Even more incentive to go for those MI's early in the draft, and ideally, 2B's.
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Postby unclepaulie » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:06 pm

first base is STACKED. I really like Huff in the middle rounds he could prove to be one of the best at his position by years end. Have you noticed his double's production, it's sick!
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1st is definetly deeper than 3rd

Postby Lefty12 » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:15 pm

I think that there are alot of players but beside Lowell, Chavez, Rolen, the majority of the rest are unproven and are riskier to draft than the other positions.
Ensberg - first time being a everyday starter, since Blum is gone. Also only hit .268 after the break.
Cabrera - first time being everyday starter. .268 BA regular season.
Blalock - .226 BA in September and .272 after allstarbreak.
Ramirez - .265 BA after the break even though his HR increased in the second half both his Runs and RBI's dropped during the second half.

But who knows. All that info could go for sh#t and they could have great seasons.
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Postby tlef316 » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:21 pm

first base is always stacked, but 3rd base is fine this year. i think your definition of a shallow position is sort of off. just because a guy doesnt hit .300 30HRs 100 RBI and score 100 runs doesnt mean he isnt a productive fantasy player. if you choose to pass on the top level guys at 3B, you still have plenty of guys that can contribute in at least 3 categories.

example- i have bill mueller projected as the number 15 3B. that wouldnt even make him a starter in most mixed leagues. however, his projected stats are 14 HR, 78 RBI, 79 runs and a .298 average. certainly not phenominal, but more than servicable for a regular sized league considering where he will be drafted.

an example of a shallow positon would be catcher(although it's getting better), TE in fantasy football or center in fantasy hoops. 3B is just fine and i have no problem waiting until the mid rounds to pick one unless one of the elite guys slip.
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:22 pm

I love it - a thread on how deep 3b is and no one even mentioned Dmitri Young. Thats too funny. Yeah, 3b is extremely deep this yr.

If I land Hinske, Ensburg, or Young late, Im a happy man ;-D
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Postby Lefty12 » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:31 pm

What I meant was that if you picked one of the top 3, 3rd basemen earlier and you chose an outfielder or 1st basemen(for example) in the middle rounds, they would have a greater total production than an outfielder or 1st basement first and then a middle tier 3rd basemen in the middle rounds. Atleast from what projections I have saw.
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Postby Guest » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:32 pm

I always look at position scarcity in three tiers:

the top (for this arguement, rolen & chavez)
the middle (lowell, ensberg, ramirez, blalock)
the dregs

more so than a lot of other positions, I agree there's not a lot of depth here

I certainly wouldn't use a 4th rounder on aramis ramirez, but I don't want Corey Koskie again. I don't want Adrian Beltre.....ever.
If you're looking for solid production from every posision, you cant wait as long at third as you could at ss, 1B, and maybe even 2B
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Postby Cornbread Maxwell » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:35 pm

Anonymous wrote:I always look at position scarcity in three tiers:

the top (for this arguement, rolen & chavez)
the middle (lowell, ensberg, ramirez, blalock)
the dregs

more so than a lot of other positions, I agree there's not a lot of depth here

I certainly wouldn't use a 4th rounder on aramis ramirez, but I don't want Corey Koskie again. I don't want Adrian Beltre.....ever.
If you're looking for solid production from every posision, you cant wait as long at third as you could at ss, 1B, and maybe even 2B


well, lets see. how about listing your SS and 2b and see how deep those go compared to 3b. anyone up for this? Im calling right now that 3b is much deeper than the other 2.
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Postby Lefty12 » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:42 pm

I have to say that 2nd and ss are about 7 deep each.
2nd - Soriano, boone, kent, castillo, vidro, giles, young, durham
ss - arod, nomar, tejada, renteria, jeter, furcal, cabrera, matsui, berroa and reyes

You have 6 players that you are pretty much guranteed to have good numbers from in the SS position. Yout got to like that, from the day when it was only the big 3.
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Postby unclepaulie » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:50 pm

shortstop has really closed the gap on infield production. Remember when it was next to imposible to get anything out of this position?

ss - arod, nomar, tejada, renteria, jeter, furcal, cabrera, matsui, berroa and reyes

WOW!!!!!!!!! For a one player slot this is a deep group in all categories.
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