and his numbers are mind-boggling. Averaged out over 162 games his number would be;
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 161 656 121 218 38 10 48 126 48 150 22 8 .332 . 377 .640 1.017
A couple of things pop out at me.
1. These are MVP numbers. 2. The terrible K/BB rate 3. His .371 BABIP in a tad worrisome.
Looking into next year, I would rank him 3B3 behind AROD and Cabrerra. This would warrant an ADP between 1.10 - 2.05 (basing this on where Wright went this year). Obviuosly, not a lot of people in here are going to spend a first round pick on him, and rightfully so. But I could easily see my self drafting him 2.12 - 3.05 (12 team league). This is "about" where Hanley Ramirez went this year and where Jose Reyes went in 2006.
The bottom line is that he is having a rookie (1/2) season like we have not seen in a long time, if ever, and he is doing it at a fairly scarce position.
Thats the problem if you want to call it that. I couldn't pick him that early, because my philosophy is to go with more of a sure thing that early. But his stats definitely will warrant an early pick. Somebody will surely grab him early than I am willing to...which I would value probably around a late 3rd, early 4th round pick in a 12 teamer.
Ryan Braun will be the most overdrafted player in the 2008 draft. Mark it down. The sample size is too small. He never did this in the minors. His minor numbers are more in accord with his August numbers, but with less power. Braun will hit .290-.300 with 30-35 HR and 90-100 runs and RBI along with 10-15 SB. That's good, but probably not the second round.
same could had been said about pujols when he first came up. i think he never played higher than A ball ( correct me if im wrong) and the rest is history. braun is legit.. i would rank him only after arod,miggy,wright . he is better than aramis.
joshheines wrote:Ryan Braun will be the most overdrafted player in the 2008 draft. Mark it down. The sample size is too small. He never did this in the minors. His minor numbers are more in accord with his August numbers, but with less power.
joshheines wrote:Ryan Braun will be the most overdrafted player in the 2008 draft. Mark it down. The sample size is too small. He never did this in the minors. His minor numbers are more in accord with his August numbers, but with less power. Braun will hit .290-.300 with 30-35 HR and 90-100 runs and RBI along with 10-15 SB. That's good, but probably not the second round.
Actually if you consider Braun to have a good chance of getting those numbers, then those stats actually do make him a second round pick. But I'm always leery of the slump that comes after the first season so I'm staying away from Braun until the fifth round.
joshheines wrote:Ryan Braun will be the most overdrafted player in the 2008 draft. Mark it down. The sample size is too small. He never did this in the minors. His minor numbers are more in accord with his August numbers, but with less power.
Couldn't agree more!
Agreed.
He'll hit for power, but he's as likely to hit .250 as .300, IMO.
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abrunn11 wrote:The bottom line is that he is having a rookie (1/2) season like we have not seen in a long time, if ever, and he is doing it at a fairly scarce position.
Well, this is true if you consider 2 years to be a long time.
Jeff Francoeur's 2005 line was very similar to this, albeit less spectacular and only over 70 games. His HR pace was closer to 40 and his K/BB was a good bit worse, but the essentials are similar.
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