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Re: Best Ever?

Postby Melo255 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:21 pm

Modern Day Pitchers:


Pedro Martinez
23 - 3, 313 K, 25 BB, 1.74 era, 0.74 whip, .167 BAA, 13 CG

Roger Clemens
24 - 3, 292k, 62bb, 1.87 era, 1.01 whip, .197 BAA, 18 CG

Randy Johnson
24 - 2, 372k, 44bb, 2.28 era, 0.90 whip, .194 BAA, 12 CG

Greg Maddux
20 - 2, 204k, 23bb, 1.56 era, 0.81 whip, .197 BAA 10 CG
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Re: Best Ever?

Postby dclark0699 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:37 pm

Nolan Ryan

22 W, 383 K, 69 BB, 1.69 ERA, 26 CG, 332 2/3 IP, 1.01 WHIP, .174 BAA
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Re: Best Ever?

Postby Tavish » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:21 pm

rocky123 wrote:I'm one of those guys who takes the era they played in into account so that being said I have to go with Ruth. As per baseball-almanac.com:

1927 was the season where a player hit more home runs than any other team in the league. That player was Babe Ruth, who finished with sixty, and the nearest team was the Washington Senators who finished with fifty-six long balls.


When one guy hits more HRs than any other team in all of baseball, that's just sick.


That's not really taking era into account, it is taking it out of context. Ruth was just about the only one trying to hit homeruns in the 1920s. Maury Wills stole 104 bases in 1962. The next closest team had 86. He had a great season that year, but it looks better simply because of the style of play in the environment.
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Re: Best Ever?

Postby talan37 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:25 pm

The pitcher lines are a tad misleading....

The year Ryan threw 69BB he only threw 183innings, while the 383 strikeouts were in 326innings.(which he had 162BB)

It would be like giving a guy a .500 average because he played 8 games and went 15-30, then got injured the rest of the year. I would think atleast in this case a bb/9 and K/9 would be more relevant than total BB and total K's.
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Re: Best Ever?

Postby J35J » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:32 pm

Tavish wrote:
rocky123 wrote:I'm one of those guys who takes the era they played in into account so that being said I have to go with Ruth. As per baseball-almanac.com:

1927 was the season where a player hit more home runs than any other team in the league. That player was Babe Ruth, who finished with sixty, and the nearest team was the Washington Senators who finished with fifty-six long balls.


When one guy hits more HRs than any other team in all of baseball, that's just sick.


That's not really taking era into account, it is taking it out of context. Ruth was just about the only one trying to hit homeruns in the 1920s. Maury Wills stole 104 bases in 1962. The next closest team had 86. He had a great season that year, but it looks better simply because of the style of play in the environment.


I've always said quitely, as to not get blasted, that Ruths "Legend" has grown bigger than he really was. Don't get me wrong he's one of the best players to ever play the game, period, but it seems that his legend makes him almost godly.....which wasn't/isn't the case!
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Re: Best Ever?

Postby Tavish » Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:47 pm

Art Vandelay wrote:A new twist on an old debate: compiling their career best single season statistics for each individual category, whose numbers look better?

Ruth: .393, 177 R, 45 2B, 16 3B, 60 HR, 171 RBI, 17 SB, 150 BB, .545 OBP, .849 SLG
Mays: .347, 130 R, 43 2B, 20 3B, 52 HR, 141 RBI, 40 SB, 112 BB, .425 OBP, .667 SLG
Williams: .406, 150 R, 44 2B, 14 3B, 43 HR, 159 RBI, 4 SB, 162 BB, .553 OBP, .735 SLG
Bonds: .370, 129 R, 44 2B, 9 3B, 73 HR, 137 RBI, 52 SB, 232 BB, .609 OBP, .863 SLG

For my money, I'll take Bonds slightly over Ruth with Williams 3rd and Mays 4th. Who are some other players with ridiculously good numbers when you look at them like this?

Definitely have to go with Bonds from that list. Some other great seasons:

Hornsby: .401, 141 R, 46 2B, 16 3B, 42 HR, 152 RBI, 17 SB, 65 BB, .459 OBP, .722 SLG
Mantle: .353, 132 R, 22 2B, 5 3B, 52 HR, 130 RBI, 10 SB, 112 BB, .464 OBP, .705 SLG
Foxx: .364, 151 R, 33 2B, 9 3B, 58 HR, 169 RBI, 3 SB, 116 BB, .469 OBP, .749 SLG
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