Ursa wrote:In Yahoo, you definitely have to record an out to get a hold, even though the overnight stats may show a hold when no out has been recorded.
Oh, is that how it is? I knew I've seen guys not record an out and get a hold in yahoo boxscores and that threw me off after reading more about the rules that yahoo's provider follows.
Why aren't a loss and a hold mutually exclusive? If a pitcher gets charged with the loss, he was obviously responsible for the lead not being held. I have a better understanding of the rule now, but not so much the logic behind it. I think I understand why holds aren't an official stat now.