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How is this a save?

Postby codered7 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:31 pm

todays red sox-baltimore game. 4 pt lead palp comes in with 2 outs and ends it. I thought 3 pts is a save??? wat the hell???
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Re: How is this a save?

Postby shmolex » Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:36 pm

It's a save if you start the last inning up by 3, or if you come into the game with the tying run on deck. In paps case, there were two runners on, so the tying run was on deck, thus a save situation.
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Re: How is this a save?

Postby Thursday » Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:36 pm

Was the tying run at the plate or on deck? Having a dude come in and get the last out in that situation usually gets them a save.
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Re: How is this a save?

Postby codered7 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:41 pm

damn good info. this sucks im gettn killed in saves by palp himself :(
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Re: How is this a save?

Postby Whisp » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:20 am

The official scorer shall credit a pitcher with a save when such pitcher meets all four of the following conditions:
(a) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his team;
(b) He is not the winning pitcher;
(c) He is credited with at least a third of an inning pitched; and
(d) He satisfies one of the following conditions:
...(1) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning;
...(2) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat or on deck (that is, the potential
...tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batters he faces); or
...(3) He pitches for at least three innings.
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Re: How is this a save?

Postby Ursa » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:54 am

Putz came in today for the rare 5 run save. The lead was 5 but the bases were loaded, hence the tying run was on deck. Now that's a cheap save......except he gave up a grand slam on the way to achieving it.
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Re: How is this a save?

Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:02 am

codered7 wrote:todays red sox-baltimore game. 4 pt lead palp comes in with 2 outs and ends it. I thought 3 pts is a save??? wat the hell???


all great info from these guys, but a crucial point was missed. its a 4 RUN lead, not a 4 POINT lead. ;-D
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Re: How is this a save?

Postby 5 » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:13 am

Yup, Papelbon deserved that save

I'd be questioning the Putz save a little more...same rules...and yes I know it qualifies as a save but the Putz let up a grand slam...allowing 4 runs to come home and still gets one. That's one of the weaker saves I've seen.
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Re: How is this a save?

Postby Tavish » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:21 pm

5 wrote:I'd be questioning the Putz save a little more...same rules...and yes I know it qualifies as a save but the Putz let up a grand slam...allowing 4 runs to come home and still gets one. That's one of the weaker saves I've seen.

It could be worse. At least he didn't give up another run so he could be in line for the Win. :-b
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