partibrejker wrote:what i want to know is who will ever break Cy youngs Win record. THey speak about HR being so sacred and hard to beat, but what about Cy youngs Record of wins. I mean 511 wins, and not even anyone is close to it. Bonds just broke HR record and A-Rod will break it soon after this, and even Griffey would have had a chance if he stayed healthy. But Win record is just WOW.
but back to the topic i think Johan Santana could reach 300. You really have to pitch for 20 years and stay healthy the whole time.
They don't talk about it because it's impossible to break.
Pitchers nowadays get only 35 starts in a season. 511 / 35 = 14.6.
So I would have to pitch almost 15 years, win every single game I start, and never miss time due to injury to tie Young.
If I just win 20 games every year of my career, and never miss time, it would take (511 / 20 = 25.55) over 25 years to break the record.
What I find more impressive is the Win % record.
Minimum of 100 decisions:
1. Al Spalding .7960 R (1871-1877)
2. Spud Chandler .7170 R (1937-1947)
3. Pedro Martinez .6910 R (1992-2007)
4. Whitey Ford .6900 L (1950-1967)
Dave Foutz .6900 R (1884-1896)
Johan Santana .6900 L (2000-2007)
7. Bob Caruthers .6880 R (1884-1892)
8. Don Gullett .6860 L (1970-1976)
9. Lefty Grove .6800 L (1925-1941)
10. Roy Oswalt .6730 R (2001-2007)
Spalding, Ford, and Grove are HOFers. Martinez, Santana and Oswalt are active. Babe Ruth checks in at #12, by the way. Halladay and Hudson are 13th and 15th, respectively. Clemens is 21st.
How difficult will it be for Pedro to break Spalding's record? Pedro only has to win his next 154 decisions to do it.
Santana has a much better chance since he is a lot younger and has less decisions under his belt. Santana can break it if he wins his next 68 decisions and retires. Of course that's not going to happen. If he can go 20-2 his next six years, he'll have it. Not gonna happen, either.
Conceivably, it's a breakable record. Chad Billingsley has a .700 lifetime record through 20 decisions. If he goes 66-14 and retires, he'll have a .800 record. Yovani Gallardo is 4-1. If he can keep winning four out of five decisions for the rest of his career, he'll win it. If some young guy goes 16-4 or better for his first five years and blows out his arm/retires and never plays again, he'll be the new Win % champ.
It's more than likely that no one ever comes close to breaking this record, but I'd like to see Santana or Oswalt challenge for second.