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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby Oatsdad » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:19 am

San D wrote:Ryan Zimmerman. He's showing nice power this year, although the average is low (but climbing). He was a 4th-5th round pick this year, and I think he'll slip a few rounds due to the low average and counting numbers, yet give better value.


Especially in the Nats are active in the FA market and get some more hitting support!
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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby Secret Avatar » Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:16 pm

BJ Upton. He's a legitimate 300-30-30 threat (or close to it) at 2B for 2008. I'm amazed he's not getting more props for showing such a power-speed combo with BA this year at 2B and in his rookie year. Upton's at 324-16-54-55-13 in only 312 at-bats, and hasn't been running for over a month due to injury. Another year of development over a full 600 at-bats, and you're looking at something very special at a weak position.
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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby J35J » Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:33 pm

Secret Avatar wrote:BJ Upton. He's a legitimate 300-30-30 threat (or close to it) at 2B for 2008. I'm amazed he's not getting more props for showing such a power-speed combo with BA this year at 2B and in his rookie year. Upton's at 324-16-54-55-13 in only 312 at-bats, and hasn't been running for over a month due to injury. Another year of development over a full 600 at-bats, and you're looking at something very special at a weak position.


I don't know, I was enjoying his name not being mentioned everywhere! Can we have a hype wagon stay quiet? !+)
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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby jswede » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:43 pm

I see you left Andruw Jones undrafted. Good call.
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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby Kingctb27 » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:17 pm

SecretAgentMan wrote:Yeah well I hate to break the news to you all, but mixed league production (Most notably power) is way down this year. I am sure someone can run the numbers from a 10 team, mixed/5 OF league 2006 vs 2007, but I know in a number of my leagues that have been running for years, the leaders of the HR category typically got about 340-360 HRs. This year, they are on pace to barely get to 300 in our format and it is not because the bottom dwellers have closed the gap. Bottom line is that in the post-roids and post greenie era (at least in theory), big offensive numbers are down and you can't judge a season on 2006 criteria. A LOT of the players in the top rounds are disappointments this year as such. In fact, most the majority of them have not met expectations, especially the early rounders.

Here is a list from a typical experts mock-draft pre-season. Leaving the wisdom of the picks at the time out of it and based on what most people expected going in:

R1 P1 Rotowire Pujols, Albert 1B STL Predrafted - disappointment
R1 P2 Creative Sports Howard, Ryan 1B PHI 53s - disappointment
R1 P3 Baseball Notebook Santana, Johan P MIN 18s - OK
R1 P4 Talented Mr. Roto Utley, Chase 2B PHI 20s - OK til he got hurt
R1 P5 KFFL Rodriguez, Alex 3B NYY 17s - Having a BIG year
R1 P6 Big Dawg Baseball Reyes, Jose SS NYM 24s -OK
R1 P7 Sportsblurb Ortiz, David DH BOS 4s - disappointment
R1 P8 FantasyBaseball.com Soriano, Alfonso OF CHC 27s - disappointment
R1 P9 Mock Draft Central Crawford, Carl OF TB 14s - mild disappointment
R1 P10 The Sporting News Guerrero, Vladimir OF ANA 12s - disappointment
R1 P11 Baseball HQ Wright, David 3B NYM 7s - Probably a better than expected year to most
R1 P12 Rotopass Beltran, Carlos OF NYM 8s - disappointment

R2 P1 Rotopass Cabrera, Miguel 3B FLA 3s - OK
R2 P2 Baseball HQ Lee, Carlos OF HOU 26s - OK
R2 P3 The Sporting News Berkman, Lance 1B, OF HOU 12s - disappointment
R2 P4 Mock Draft Central Holliday, Matt OF COL 12s - OK
R2 P5 FantasyBaseball.com Jeter, Derek SS NYY 1m 30s - mild disappointment
R2 P6 Sportsblurb Mauer, Joe C MIN 1m 18s - disappointment
R2 P7 Big Dawg Baseball Ramirez, Aramis 3B CHC 37s - disappointment
R2 P8 KFFL Ramirez, Manny OF BOS 54s - disappointment
R2 P9 Talented Mr. Roto Suzuki, Ichiro OF SEA 7s - OK
R2 P10 Baseball Notebook Sizemore, Grady OF CLE 25s - OK
R2 P11 Creative Sports Bay, Jason OF PIT 49s - big disappointment
R2 P12 Rotowire Hafner, Travis DH CLE 13s - disappointment

R3 P1 Rotowire Teixeira, Mark 1B TEX 13s - disappointment (mostly due to the injury costing him time)
R3 P2 Creative Sports Wells, Vernon OF TOR 1m 2s - big disappointment
R3 P3 Baseball Notebook Carpenter, Chris P STL 26s - big disappointment
R3 P4 Talented Mr. Roto Rollins, Jimmy SS PHI 25s - having a very good year
R3 P5 KFFL Martinez, Victor 1B, C CLE 1m 12s - disappointment
R3 P6 Big Dawg Baseball Ramirez, Hanley SS FLA 1m 26s - Better than predicted
R3 P7 Sportsblurb Tejada, Miguel SS BAL 44s - disappointment
R3 P8 FantasyBaseball.com Lee, Derrek 1B CHC 15s - disappointment
R3 P9 Mock Draft Central Oswalt, Roy P HOU 21s - disappointment
R3 P10 The Sporting News Morneau, Justin 1B MIN 8s - OK
R3 P11 Baseball HQ Furcal, Rafael SS LA 6s - disappointment
R3 P12 Rotopass Halladay, Roy P TOR 19s - disappointment

R4 P1 Rotopass Zambrano, Carlos P CHC 38s - mild disappointment
R4 P2 Baseball HQ Roberts, Brian 2B BAL 4s - having a better than expected year
R4 P3 The Sporting News Abreu, Bobby OF NYY 1m 22s - disappointment
R4 P4 Mock Draft Central Webb, Brandon P ARI 7s OK
R4 P5 FantasyBaseball.com Atkins, Garrett 3B COL 34s - disappointment
R4 P6 Sportsblurb Figgins, Chone 3B, OF ANA 7s OK
R4 P7 Big Dawg Baseball McCann, Brian C ATL 35s - disappointment
R4 P8 KFFL Pierre, Juan OF LA 20s - dissapoinment
R4 P9 Talented Mr. Roto Konerko, Paul 1B CHW 12s - disappointment
R4 P10 Baseball Notebook Jones, Andruw OF ATL 18s - big disappointment
R4 P11 Creative Sports Cano, Robinson 2B NYY 39s - disappointment
R4 P12 Rotowire Lopez, Felipe SS WAS 9s - HUGE disappointment

R5 P1 Rotowire Rodriguez, Francisco P ANA 18s OK
R5 P2 Creative Sports Young, Michael SS TEX 1m 11s - disappointment
R5 P3 Baseball Notebook Dye, Jermaine OF CHW 28s - disappointment
R5 P4 Talented Mr. Roto Peavy, Jake P SD 11s OK
R5 P5 KFFL Nathan, Joe P MIN 38s OK
R5 P6 Big Dawg Baseball Delgado, Carlos 1B NYM 55s - huge disappointment
R5 P7 Sportsblurb Zimmerman, Ryan 3B WAS 2m 17s - huge disappointment
R5 P8 FantasyBaseball.com Dunn, Adam OF CIN OK
R5 P9 Mock Draft Central Guillen, Carlos SS DET 54s Having a good year
R5 P10 The Sporting News Hall, Bill SS MIL 1m 8s - dissapoinment
R5 P11 Baseball HQ Ryan, B.J. P TOR 20s - dissapoinment
R5 P12 Rotopass Thome, Jim DH CHW 28s OK to disappointment

R6 P1 Rotopass Kazmir, Scott P TB 15s - disappointment
R6 P2 Baseball HQ Damon, Johnny OF NYY 1m 3s - big disappointment
R6 P3 The Sporting News Wagner, Billy P NYM 7s OK
R6 P4 Mock Draft Central Lackey, John P ANA 19s OK
R6 P5 FantasyBaseball.com Sheffield, Gary OF DET 1m 29s Better than expected
R6 P6 Sportsblurb Uggla, Dan 2B FLA 19s Better than expected
R6 P7 Big Dawg Baseball Sheets, Ben P MIL 9s - disappointment
R6 P8 KFFL Matsui, Hideki OF NYY 1m 15s OK
R6 P9 Talented Mr. Roto Rivera, Mariano P NYY 26s OK to mild disappointment
R6 P10 Baseball Notebook Jones, Chipper 3B ATL 34s Having a good year
R6 P11 Creative Sports Fielder, Prince 1B MIL 1m 7s Having a Great year
R6 P12 Rotowire Rolen, Scott 3B STL 16s - huge disappointment

R7 P1 Rotowire Weeks, Rickie 2B MIL 38s - huge disappointment
R7 P2 Creative Sports Hoffman, Trevor P SD 35s OK
R7 P3 Baseball Notebook Putz, J.J. P SEA 25s OK
R7 P4 Talented Mr. Roto Glaus, Troy 3B TOR 30s OK
R7 P5 KFFL Smoltz, John P ATL 33s OK
R7 P6 Big Dawg Baseball Saito, Takashi P LA 1m 15s OK
R7 P7 Sportsblurb Bonderman, Jeremy P DET 12s mild disappointment
R7 P8 FantasyBaseball.com Cordero, Chad P WAS 43s mild disappointment
R7 P9 Mock Draft Central Helton, Todd 1B COL 8s Btter than expected year
R7 P10 The Sporting News Young, Chris P SD 42s OK
R7 P11 Baseball HQ Myers, Brett P PHI 3s - disappointment
R7 P12 Rotopass Young, Delmon OF TB 9s OK

You are smoking some serious ish if you think Ryan Howard and all those guys have been disappointments and Delmon Young has been "OK."
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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby AussieDodger » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:59 pm

My aces , James Shields and Ian Snell will be had cheaply , seeing as they are going downhill in the second half of this year. (And dragging my team with them) :-o

Also Jeremy Hermida. Remember this name. Serious potential and he is only 12 years old.

And David Bush.Possibly undrafted. Because he stinks. He is Eric Milton jnr. Just watch.
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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby JTWood » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:22 pm

OneLoveBoomer wrote:I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft.

Not anymore now that you've made a thread about them.

When will people learn? :-?
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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby OneLoveBoomer » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:39 pm

JTWood wrote:
OneLoveBoomer wrote:I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft.

Not anymore now that you've made a thread about them.

When will people learn? :-?



Riiiiight.... I've ruined fantasy baseball for everyone by posting a thread in Baseball Leftovers in Fantasy Baseball Cafe :-t
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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby JTWood » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:42 pm

OneLoveBoomer wrote:
JTWood wrote:
OneLoveBoomer wrote:I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft.

Not anymore now that you've made a thread about them.

When will people learn? :-?


Riiiiight.... I've ruined fantasy baseball for everyone by posting a thread in Baseball Leftovers in Fantasy Baseball Cafe

:-t

You didn't ruin it. You just temporarily broke it. I'll have it fixed in time for 2008. No worries. :-D ;-D
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Re: I bet these players'll be cheap in next year's draft

Postby Rhydderch » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:22 pm

What about Riveria. He's had less save opps than usual and his ERA is almost twice as high as usual. His perphs. look good though, just seems a few more balls have landed than usual.
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