Filthy pitchers? And who’s the filthiest?

[frankadelic]

This yahoo article on Whiff Rate is relevant to this discussion:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

[nyrblue2]

I gotta go with Krod and Santana.

But honerable mention has to go to El Duque and his 50 MPH curve ball. I've seen him make some damn good hitters swing themselved into the ground.

[teddy ballgame]

Greinke's 97 mph fastball coupled with his 50 mph changeup = filthy.

Greinke is virtually unhittable in MVP 05. If you use him vs. another human player you can throw the changeup all day and they'll be lucky to make contact.

[AllStar215]

Dice K Matsuzaka's gyroball

[jake_harv88]

erik bedard is absolutely the CURRENT "filthiest" pitcher. He is making people look retardedly silly...

[San D]

I think Kerry Wood was up there before the 9 billion injuries. Look at the breaking pitches during his 20k game....

I just watched Wood strike out Reyes on a slider a couple of innings ago where Reyes almost fell leaning forward. With all the injuries, one forgets that his stuff (when he's going right) is among the most filthy.

[Kingctb27]

Pedro had the filthiest stuff I've seen in person during his prime, but I'm not sure who I'd say has the filthiest stuff today. It doesn't necessarily have to be the best pitcher.

I agree with this. Pedro in his prime had 5 out pitches that were each distinct and staright nasty. He had "stuff" and contol.

No doubt about it.

Pedro is just money.

[Snakes Gould]

Greinke's 97 mph fastball coupled with his 50 mph changeup = filthy.

Greinke is virtually unhittable in MVP 05. If you use him vs. another human player you can throw the changeup all day and they'll be lucky to make contact.

i think its the curve his curve is like 55 mph with the biggest loop ever!

[mweir145]

Here's a name that hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread, I don't believe: Dustin McGowan.

He has a great fastball, curve, and change. I'm becoming more and more convinced his stuff is actually better than Burnett's (AJ has a great fastball and curve, but he doesn't have confidence to throw his change with regularity, and when he does, it isn't really that good).

[Another Blown Save]

No one's mentioned the Fossum Flip