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Postby waterproof » Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:35 pm

Not sure what being a "filthy pitcher" means, but I'm starting to hear it more often.
Is it as simple as being good or is it specific to a certain style?

Johan the filthiest?
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Re: Filthy pitchers? And who’s the filthiest?

Postby teddy ballgame » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:08 pm

Filthy, meaning like flashy I suppose. A curveball that makes people look silly would be a filthy curveball. Liriano has a filthy curveball, Randy Johnson had a filthy slider.

You could say Johan is the filthiest.
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Re: Filthy pitchers? And who’s the filthiest?

Postby Boyakasha » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:23 pm

I don't know that there's an exact definition, but generally it refers to a pitcher's stuff, usually their breaking balls since those are the most visibly filthy. Filthy, nasty, dirty, whatever you want to call it; the pitcher still needs to learn how to pitch.

I don't know if I'd say Johan's the filthiest. His circle change is certainly filthy, but he combines great stuff with great command, which is why he's so successful. I don't want to shortchange Johan, because he's so badass, but I guess I'm a little reluctant to call a changeup filthy because it's really dependent on having a plus fastball, which Johan has.

Pedro had the filthiest stuff I've seen in person during his prime, but I'm not sure who I'd say has the filthiest stuff today. It doesn't necessarily have to be the best pitcher. Felix probably deserves consideration, Liriano before his arm exploded, Peavy has great stuff. Off the top of my head, others might include Zambrano, Harden, Burnett, Cabrera, Kazmir...there are lots; maybe a reliever deserves the crown. I think this has been discussed before.
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Postby nikku88 » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:46 pm

Randy Johnson leads my list. I doubt he ever bathed.
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Postby Snakes Gould » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:36 pm

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Postby denicola_dominates » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:37 pm

well pertaining to nastiest or filthiest, i think analysts, fans and others think of guys that pitch not only well but also deliver nasty pitches that they are trademarked for il say that the best and most winnigets pitcher in the bigs now is either beckett or sabathia yet the nastiest one is either james shields or jake peavy becaus of their purely nasty picthes the movement on the same pitches and therefore their ability to strike players out 8-o :-D :-D
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Re: Filthy pitchers? And who’s the filthiest?

Postby High Heater » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:40 pm

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Postby GiantsFan14 » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:55 pm

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Re: Filthy pitchers? And who’s the filthiest?

Postby skapur20 » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:38 pm

id say peavy, hamels, or rich hill are the filthiest as all of them are pretty filthy
ummm lets go angels? :)
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