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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby tinfoilxtouch » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:06 am

High Heater wrote:webb and oswalt have slipped in my mind. i'd rather have a younger ace who k's more in bedard then those 2.

1 Santana
2 Peavy
3 Bedard


So do you think the O's are going to land Arod, or does your league not count wins. No O's pitcher is going that high in a 5x5.
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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:31 pm

1. Johan Santana
2. Jake Peavy
3. Erik Bedard
4. Brandon Webb
5. Chris Young
6. Carlos Zambrano
7. Cole Hamels
8. C.C. Sabathia
9. Roy Oswalt
10. John Lackey
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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby Philliebuster » Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:32 pm

Omaha Red Sox wrote:The way I see it:

1. Santana
2. Peavy
3. Young
4. Hamela
5. CC
6. Bedard
7. Zambrano
8. Webb
9. Lincecum
10. Beckett
11. Haren
12. Verlander
13. Lackey
14. Dice-K
15. Halladay


I couldn't take Lince above any of those guys in 2008...he's probably closer to 20

1. Santana
2. Peavy
3. Young
4. CC
5. Hamels
6. Bedard
7. Zambrano
8. Webb
9. Haren
10.Dice-K
11. Beckett
12. Verlander
13. Lackey
14. Oswalt
15. Halladay
16. King Felix
17. Smoltz
18. Sheets
19. Pedro - will be relevant once again!!!
20. Harang
21. Lincecum

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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun Aug 05, 2007 1:36 pm

tinfoilxtouch wrote:
High Heater wrote:webb and oswalt have slipped in my mind. i'd rather have a younger ace who k's more in bedard then those 2.

1 Santana
2 Peavy
3 Bedard


So do you think the O's are going to land Arod, or does your league not count wins. No O's pitcher is going that high in a 5x5.


I think the Leo Mazzone effect on Bedard has been dynamite on his numbers. He's no longer a one-dimensional power pitcher as his offspeed pitches make him more well-rounded, which also increases his pitching efficiency. Bedard as the top K pitcher in the league thus far warrants a top 5 spot at the least. Wins aren't the most important factor, but if he chips in with 13-15, I'd be happy.
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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby High Heater » Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:10 pm

tinfoilxtouch wrote:
High Heater wrote:webb and oswalt have slipped in my mind. i'd rather have a younger ace who k's more in bedard then those 2.

1 Santana
2 Peavy
3 Bedard


So do you think the O's are going to land Arod, or does your league not count wins. No O's pitcher is going that high in a 5x5.


he seems to be doing just fine wining the past 7 straight
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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby AllStar215 » Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:18 pm

High Heater wrote:
tinfoilxtouch wrote:
High Heater wrote:webb and oswalt have slipped in my mind. i'd rather have a younger ace who k's more in bedard then those 2.

1 Santana
2 Peavy
3 Bedard


So do you think the O's are going to land Arod, or does your league not count wins. No O's pitcher is going that high in a 5x5.


he seems to be doing just fine wining the past 7 straight


Make that 8 in a row ;-D
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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby High Heater » Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:30 pm

you know he could make a case for 2nd over peavey .... he's that talented. people still under rated Bedard so who knows.

and yea Leo defiently helped him out because the amount of K's he gets is just ridiculous. his stuff was always there but he seems to have learned how to mix them up and changes speeds more.

this is what 4 year in a row of improving in all areas now?

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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby Yoda » Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:37 pm

High Heater wrote:you know he could make a case for 2nd over peavey .... he's that talented. people still under rated Bedard so who knows.

and yea Leo defiently helped him out because the amount of K's he gets is just ridiculous. his stuff was always there but he seems to have learned how to mix them up and changes speeds more.

this is what 4 year in a row of improving in all areas now?

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Bedard is obviously good but Peavy has been consistently dominant for years now. Plus Peavy is younger and has less health problems than Bedard. I'd take Peavy over Bedard without even thinking about it.
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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby Kingctb27 » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:27 am

Won't be needing any of these lists; Hitters get the job done.

H Matsui, Vernon Wells, Atkins, Braun, Upton > CC, Bedard, Webb, Zambarno, Hamels
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Re: Top Ten SP for 2008

Postby Yoda » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:32 am

Kingctb27 wrote:Won't be needing any of these lists; Hitters get the job done.

H Matsui, Vernon Wells, Atkins, Braun, Upton > CC, Bedard, Webb, Zambarno, Hamels


That makes absolutely no sense. Atkins > Zambrano, Webb, Hamels? Wells > Webb, CC, Hamels? You would honestly do that and win your league?
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