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Re: Bonderman

Postby Morel Orel » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:39 pm

I'm dropping him :-[
My sweet sigs got the boot...
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Re: Bonderman

Postby pangbones » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:45 pm

beezer wrote:Just gave up four runs in the first inning Saturday.



This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that owns Bondy. His ERA in the first inning this year is like over 10!!! 8-o After the first, it's like sub 3!! Don't know what thats all about, but that first inning has been his achilles all year.
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Re: Bonderman

Postby Rollotommasi » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:38 pm

pangbones wrote:
beezer wrote:Just gave up four runs in the first inning Saturday.



This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that owns Bondy. His ERA in the first inning this year is like over 10!!! 8-o After the first, it's like sub 3!! Don't know what thats all about, but that first inning has been his achilles all year.



can the Tigers put Bonderman in only on 2nd inning ??

i mean they start the game with a RP only for the 1st inning, and then..... Bonderman in

sounds crazy ?

!+)
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Re: Bonderman

Postby pasterofmuppets » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:58 pm

Rollotommasi wrote:
pangbones wrote:
beezer wrote:Just gave up four runs in the first inning Saturday.



This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that owns Bondy. His ERA in the first inning this year is like over 10!!! 8-o After the first, it's like sub 3!! Don't know what thats all about, but that first inning has been his achilles all year.



can the Tigers put Bonderman in only on 2nd inning ??

i mean they start the game with a RP only for the 1st inning, and then..... Bonderman in

sounds crazy ?

!+)


Um, then wouldn't that be his first inning :-B
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Re: Bonderman

Postby Rollotommasi » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:06 am

pasterofmuppets wrote:
Rollotommasi wrote:
pangbones wrote:[


This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that owns Bondy. His ERA in the first inning this year is like over 10!!! 8-o After the first, it's like sub 3!! Don't know what thats all about, but that first inning has been his achilles all year.



can the Tigers put Bonderman in only on 2nd inning ??

i mean they start the game with a RP only for the 1st inning, and then..... Bonderman in

sounds crazy ?

!+)


Um, then wouldn't that be his first inning :-B



mmmm...i think you're right

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Re: Bonderman

Postby Bwanna » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:50 am

CrashOverrid3 wrote:Its just a bad game dont overreact

It's just two really bad games, don't overreact.

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"In the first inning, Bondo has a 12.00 ERA, as opposed to his 4.50 ERA overall. Of the 68 earned runs he’s given up so far this season, 28 have been in the first inning. That’s 41% of all the runs he’s given up this year. FORTY-ONE PERCENT.

If you think about the fact that a game is 9 innings, and that a starter could reasonably be expected to go 6-7 innings, you SHOULD have your starters averaging between 15-20% of their total runs given up per inning*. To compare, of the 52 earned runs Verlander has given up this season, 8 were in the first inning (15%). Of the 60 earned runs that Nate has given up, 15 were in the first inning (25%). Kenny had given up 4 first-inning earned runs out of 19 overall (21%).

Fifteen percent. Twenty-five percent. Twenty-one percent. Forty-one percent. One of these things is nnnoooottt like the others…

Approximately 80-85% of a pitcher’s earned runs should come after the first inning. Bondo is giving up 59% of his runs after the first inning.

Basically, Jeremy Bonderman’s first innings make him a statistical freak, a veritable monster, and not in an impressive eating-the-enemy kind of way. THIS IS NOT OK. Jeremy Bonderman is a GOOD PITCHER, catdammit, we KNOW this, and I AM NOT OK WITH THIS STATISTICAL FREAKERY."

"...So, new suggestion for Bondo: throw an inning before the game. I’m serious. Get some Tigers batters in there and simulate a freakin’ first inning as closely to The Real Thing as they can. Make him throw it, for dead serious real, not just as a series of warmup tosses. I’m aware that this would cut his ability to work in the actual game down by an inning, but I would rather have 6 innings of Bondo throwing 2-run ball and three innings of bullpen than 7 innings of Bondo throwing 6-run ball and two innings of bullpen."


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Re: Bonderman

Postby StlSluggers » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:11 am

StlSluggers wrote:If you look, Bonderman fades late in the season (or he has the last two years):

Can I just brag for a bit? Just one second?

I traded Bonderman (3-yr contract) for Beckett (1-yr contract) and Haren (2-yr contract) on July 2nd.

I just locked up the #1 seed and a first-round bye last night. ;-D
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Re: Bonderman

Postby Bwanna » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:51 pm

Bwanna wrote:
CrashOverrid3 wrote:Its just a bad game dont overreact

It's just two really bad games, don't overreact.

I was overjoyed today when Bondy made it through the first inning allowing only 1 ER. Then he puts up zeros in the 3rd... 4th... 5th... and I'm thinking 'sweet, the dude has turned it around'. Then...

6 IP, 20 hits, 7 ER, 6 BB

Good Lord.

It's just three REALLY bad games... I don't think any action would qualify as overacting at this point.
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Re: Bonderman

Postby Rhydderch » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:02 pm

Bwanna wrote:
Bwanna wrote:
CrashOverrid3 wrote:Its just a bad game dont overreact

It's just two really bad games, don't overreact.

I was overjoyed today when Bondy made it through the first inning allowing only 1 ER. Then he puts up zeros in the 3rd... 4th... 5th... and I'm thinking 'sweet, the dude has turned it around'. Then...

6 IP, 20 hits, 7 ER, 6 BB

Good Lord.

It's just three REALLY bad games... I don't think any action would qualify as overacting at this point.


Yahoo was a little messed up there, so he only gave up 10 hits and 3 walks. Still pretty terrible. Anyone seen him pitch and know whats wrong?
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Re: Bonderman

Postby Bwanna » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:06 pm

Rhydderch wrote:Yahoo was a little messed up there, so he only gave up 10 hits and 3 walks. Still pretty terrible. Anyone seen him pitch and know whats wrong?


Please tell me he only had 3.5 ERs.

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