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Postby bandrus1 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:45 pm

are up for HOF election next year
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Re: what new players?

Postby abrunn11 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:20 pm

Brady Anderson, Andy Benes, Delino DeShields, Shawon Dunston, Chuck Finley, Travis Fryman, David Justice, Chuck Knoblauch, Mike Morgan, Robb Nen, Tim Raines, Greg Swindell, Randy Velarde, Mark Wohlers

Not exactly the who's who of baseball. The only one that has a chance to eclipse 60% of the vote is Raines.
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Re: what new players?

Postby Padsin05 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:36 pm

that is an ugly lineup

Gossage and McGwire might sneak in. Which brings up a question.

Has there ever been a year where they just didnt let anyone in?
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Re: what new players?

Postby Field » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:51 pm

I just reviewed the stats of all of the players listed above. I must say that is a very underwhelming list for sure.

None of those guys have any chance. Raines has a good amount of hits (2600) and a solid .298 career average, but his power numbers are weak especially for an outfielder.
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Re: what new players?

Postby CrashOverrid3 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:55 pm

I hope McGwire gets in
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Re: what new players?

Postby Field » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:24 pm

CrashOverrid3 wrote:I hope McGwire gets in


Imagine his acceptance speech.....

"I'm not here to talk about the past....."


"Oh wait, that's exactly what I'm here to do" :-D .


I can't see them vote him in next year, he would probably get boo-ed off the stage. I think the public needs another decade or so to accept the fact that we'll never know the extent of the steroid usage so they'll just have to accept it.
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Re: what new players?

Postby abrunn11 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:29 pm

[quote="Padsin05"]that is an ugly lineup

Gossage and McGwire might sneak in. Which brings up a question.

Has there ever been a year where they just didnt let anyone in?[/quote]

1940,'41, '43, '50, '58, and '60,
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Re: what new players?

Postby buffalobillsrul2002 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:56 pm

no chance for Nen? ERA under 3 (and would be way under 3 if it wasn't for his first couple of years which were awful) , with over 300 career saves. If the HOF decides to accept closers, then he's one who could get in(though I'd rather see a Blyleven, Gossage, or McGwire in before him).
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Re: what new players?

Postby The Big Train » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:52 am

Living in Canada, I saw Raines a lot. Tremendous player. Lifetime OBP of .385. 800+ SB. 2600+ hits. Nearly a .300 career average (.294). But like Andre Dawson, he didn't get much attention playing in Montreal and he was overshadowed by Rickey Henderson. Jeff Pearlman of ESPN makes a good case for Raines being in the HOF even though he surely won't make it. Pearlman argues that Raines was better overall than Lou Brock. The numbers are compelling. He would get my vote in a heartbeat.

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Re: what new players?

Postby buffalobillsrul2002 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:11 am

Raines has an argument, but overall I don't see it. At LF, which is a prime hitting position, his numbers just aren't there to warrant HOF. For around 7 years he was one of the better players in the game, but there was never really an argument that he was the best, and 7 great years doesn't get you into the Hall in my book.
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