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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby smoovethug » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:35 pm

citti34 wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:completely gutless? its not like he threw a barbell at him. it was a water bottle. the fan shouldnt have done it, but im sure he knew piazza wouldnt have gotten hurt if he got hit by it. im not making excuses for the fan, but the guy isnt going to hell for this. he got kicked out of the stadium and was removed.


Wow, are you a Philly homer? Of course a Philly fan is going to speak up for this guy.


Stop it. Philadelphia is no worse than any other city with things like this, it's just that when things happen here it gets more publicity. I'm done so we don't get off topic...
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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby beezer » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:46 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:completely gutless? its not like he threw a barbell at him. it was a water bottle. the fan shouldnt have done it, but im sure he knew piazza wouldnt have gotten hurt if he got hit by it. im not making excuses for the fan, but the guy isnt going to hell for this. he got kicked out of the stadium and was removed.



I was standing next to a friend in broad daylight at Woodstock '99 when he got hit in the head with a plastic water bottle. The bottle was only a quarter full but the wound still required ten staples to close. If you think a water bottle can't do damage, think again.
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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby Snakes Gould » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:52 pm

beezer wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:completely gutless? its not like he threw a barbell at him. it was a water bottle. the fan shouldnt have done it, but im sure he knew piazza wouldnt have gotten hurt if he got hit by it. im not making excuses for the fan, but the guy isnt going to hell for this. he got kicked out of the stadium and was removed.



I was standing next to a friend in broad daylight at Woodstock '99 when he got hit in the head with a plastic water bottle. The bottle was only a quarter full but the wound still required ten staples to close. If you think a water bottle can't do damage, think again.


lol, well ive also been hit with water bottles in my life, and ive never even come remotely close to getting hurt. plus, i dont think your friend was wearing a batting helmet designed to withstand a 90 mph fastball. ;-7
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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby Laean » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:36 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:ugh, i had a long post posted, but it didnt go through. all im saying is the guy was removed from the game and in every stadium thats usually the announcement. if you throw anything onto the field, you will be removed. problem solved. what was supposed to do? stare down piazza after they picked him out. if anything that was the only intelligent thing the guy did, leaving without another altercation.


no, he was supposed to not throw anything at all. and once he did, when piazza confronted him, he could have been a man and apologized. and on top of that he should've been removed of course. you might say what would've been the point of apologizing since piazza would've been mad anyway. well the point of apologizing isn't to get out of being punished is it? not real apologies, not by guys who are manning up to their mistakes anyway.

if he was voluntarily removing himself from the game because he felt bad or he thought that was the right thing to do or whatever, like you seem to think he did, he could have apologized before doing so. If he was just running the hell away after being confronted by someone that he didn't think would find him or confront him, he'd just try to get out of the situation as fast as possible right? he only started walking away when other people around him pointed him out. he also walked out on his own before the security guards even got there and made him leave, if i read the article correctly. sure seems like he was just running away to me. that's not intelligent. any 4 year old boy has enough sense to know that you can run when you're in trouble and scared of being punished. that's flat out cowardly i.e. "gutless."

i just don't get your logic. it seems like you're saying as long as you fully pay your dues afterwards through an established legal/organizational/etc process, it's ok and you can do whatever you want.

it's not like i can go around the streets spitting at babies (it's no big deal, it won't hurt them like a barbell or anything right?) in the face then run away from their parents, as long as i go to a police station and turn myself in afterwards.
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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:20 am

thats not my point at all. i agree with you that he was wrong, but apologizing in front of 40,000 fans? i doubt piazza would hear it anyway. all im saying is the guy is a moron, an idiot, a drunk, etc...i just didnt think it was as pick a deal as everyone is making it out to be.
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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby Laean » Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:13 am

Snakes Gould wrote:thats not my point at all. i agree with you that he was wrong, but apologizing in front of 40,000 fans? i doubt piazza would hear it anyway. all im saying is the guy is a moron, an idiot, a drunk, etc...i just didnt think it was as pick a deal as everyone is making it out to be.


what's wrong with apologizing in front of 40,000 fans? i do agree piazza probably wouldn't have been able to hear it, but you can apologize with gestures, or mouthing "my bad" or "i'm sorry," and/or with facial expressions. if he was within water bottle throwing distance, i'm sure piazza could've seen that.

as for you not thinking it's not as big a deal, well that's everyone's judgment call. i don't got a problem with you having an opinion. i don't think it's too big a deal either. even if he's prosecuted, i doubt he'll serve any real jail time or anything. i was just disagreeing with you that what he did was the right/intelligent thing to do. rather, it was cowardly.
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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:26 am

well he obviously wasnt "sorry" for it. it wasnt an accident. why would he apologize to him immediately? he didnt know it was wrong then, or else he probably wouldnt have done it. we all (reasonable level headed people) know it was wrong, but im sure he wasnt even thinking about apologizing.
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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby Laean » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:24 am

Snakes Gould wrote:well he obviously wasnt "sorry" for it. it wasnt an accident. why would he apologize to him immediately? he didnt know it was wrong then, or else he probably wouldnt have done it. we all (reasonable level headed people) know it was wrong, but im sure he wasnt even thinking about apologizing.


uh ... what?

we weren't talking about what he must have been thinking. we were talking about whether what he did and how he reacted was right or wrong, and what he SHOULD have done.

you said what he did wasn't all that bad (not a barbell or anything), and what he did afterwards was the right / "intelligent" move (i.e. walking out of there without instigating the situation more). i said what he did was bad (offensive touching through hand or item, even if without physical harm, is considered legal battery for a reason), and what he did afterwards was wrong (i.e. running out of there like a coward instead of manning up for what he did).

as for why would he apologize when it wasn't an accident, people do do that you know. e.g. maybe he was drunk and just threw it in a fit of stupidity/passion, right afterwards realizing what he had just done.
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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby pasterofmuppets » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:39 am

IIRC, the guy was escorted out. I also believe another fan shook his hand as he was escorted out. I don't live in OC, but I am an Angel's fan... seeing that kinda crap makes us look bad (they're probably from LA !+) ). I still remember years back when a game had was delayed when fans started throwing cushions into the field.

Water bottle or not, it was a horrible and gutless thing to do. I honestly would've loved to see Piazza go after the guy... kudos to him for having a clear head to do the right thing. And if you don't think something like this is a big deal, then you are obviously making light of the whole situation. What if someone just chucks a bottle of water at you out of nowhere?
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Re: Piazza hit in head by bottle thrown from stands in Anahiem

Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:55 am

pasterofmuppets wrote:
Water bottle or not, it was a horrible and gutless thing to do.


this is the statement that i have a problem with. what he did was wrong. he should have been kicked out. but it wasnt HORRIBLE AND GUTLESS. it was stupid and thoughtless. nothing more.
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